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Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance
KGTV via Yahoo ^ | april 30 2002 | KGTV

Posted on 04/30/2002 4:30:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod

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To: conserve-it
I am going to try and ignore the obvious and think that there was that tremendous heat wave last month and the girls wanted to keep cool.

There can't be that many hoochie girls in one high school to cause this kind of problem.

181 posted on 04/30/2002 7:12:16 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: general_re
And the parents will find out as much if and when they try to file suit.

There will be no suit. The parents will be trying to find someone willing to go on a contingency...lol

Somehow I don't think a lawyer is going to donate to this cause....

182 posted on 04/30/2002 7:13:05 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: Publius6961
There might have been a better way to accomplish the check,

Like in private, and before the event?

183 posted on 04/30/2002 7:14:15 AM PDT by texlok
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To: KneelBeforeZod
"10News contacted school officials, who all declined to go on camera. But Principal Paul Gentle did say that he is 'looking into the situation.'"

Isn't that what caused the ruckus in the first place?

--Boris

184 posted on 04/30/2002 7:14:15 AM PDT by boris
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To: Domestic Church; Alas
What kind of mother buys thong underwear for her daughter

You two need to lighten up a little, Thong underwear, for mini-skirts is probably
a little to much, but nothing wrong with wearing them, I have teenage daughters and they wear them and like them.
I will not let them wear them with Mini's skirts, for that matter let them wear mini's at all.
But putting the mothers down for buying thongs, is a bit much, or is that butt munch.
185 posted on 04/30/2002 7:14:38 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: realpatriot71
So you're insinuating that every girl or woman who wears a thong is a slut?

So you're insinuating that every girl or woman who wears a thong is doing so for reasons of comfort and gave no thought to the opposite sex when donning them?

I never used the word 'slut' so don't try to 'put words into my mouth'.

And, I never said 'women'. I used the phrase "young ladies of this age ". A slightly different standard of reasonable attire applies to the two groups.
Again, you're attempting to attribute statements to me that I never made.

A grown woman doesn't need to give a reason why she wants to wear a thong. A young teenage girl under the guidance of an attentive adult most certainly does.

Besides, what do you think these girls had in mind when they slipped into these thongs?

186 posted on 04/30/2002 7:15:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: hobbes1
I am saying a Short skirt coupled with less than adequate underwear, at a DANCE, is an indicator that there may be a nudity problem.

Inadequate underwear that appears to have been discovered only due to a search, and that probably was not in plain view upon entry. I would suggest the school should have waited until the thong actually made a public appearance, and then acted.

187 posted on 04/30/2002 7:16:49 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Publius6961
This thread presently is long on "knee jerk" and totally devoid of thought.
And I firmly believe that as a local issue, community standards should prevail.

"a line of people and the vice principal ... And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else,"

If the community standard is to lift up teen girls skirts in the presence of the boys in the school, then they are a community of perverts. (I like it)

I notice that community standards has not managed to make a rule against thong underware but is totally capricious and arbitrary. Those are totalitarian community standards.

So9

188 posted on 04/30/2002 7:17:19 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: codebreaker
What about suing the school system and winning, is that proposition still on the board?

The proposition as I understand it was that HG said that if a case against the school or the district or some school official ever made it to court, he would bet $100 that the parents/students would lose. IOW, if it ever gets to court, the school would eventually prevail. That is, after running its course through the appeals process ("eventually"), the school will not be held civilly liable for this incident.

189 posted on 04/30/2002 7:18:02 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
that's my understanding as well.
190 posted on 04/30/2002 7:19:38 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Army regulations state that women's underwear will have a cotton crotch. I once knew a male First Sergeant who was ordered by his CO (a female) to check that all the female troops were complying with this regulation. He declined -- repectfully of course.
191 posted on 04/30/2002 7:20:20 AM PDT by Rule of Law
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To: NittanyLion
I would suggest the school should have waited until the thong actually made a public appearance, and then acted.

yes. Closing the Barn door AFTER the horse is gone, is always, the correct response...sheesh.

IT WAS A DANCE. The action was implied. (like the kidlet in the road analogy....)

Gee Mr. Policeman, don't you dare stop and quiz that guy walking into the bank, just because he put a stocking over his head on the way in, it's a free country and he can wear whatever he likes. My reading of the 4th Amend. dictates that you have to wait till he pulls a gun or demands money....

192 posted on 04/30/2002 7:20:56 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: mhking
Sorry, dude. It's a female vp and that skirt's going up anyway while they dance. Guess she'll just have to pull them off the dance floor in the future.

Can't you see that there's an unspoken piece of this story. Something has gone down that makes this necessary. Wonder what it was?

Not to mention the dancing that is simulated sex that Oreilly, I think, ran a piece on a few months back. Combine that with a naked bottom and it looks like a brothel.

All that vp needs to counter your lawyer is a clearly expressed policy preceding the dance. Schools are permitted to establish such policies by law. And it's no different than a football coach or a baseball coach making a guys "jock strap" or "jock cup" check. And they do that, and they've done that for years, and it's absolutely not any different.

Bring on your lawyer and I'll make sure the judge knows you need to pay costs.

193 posted on 04/30/2002 7:22:20 AM PDT by xzins
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To: hobbes1
Pfft. I won't say never - there's a lot of ambulance chasers out there who might think to try this case in the papers and embarass the school into giving up a quick and dirty settlement to make it go away. The school would be silly to do so, but they'll probably look at it from a cost-benefit standpoint - will it cost more to go to court and defend it, or to settle the case?

Settlement or no, I think you're right - these folks will never get a final judgement from the courts in their favor.

194 posted on 04/30/2002 7:25:09 AM PDT by general_re
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To: KneelBeforeZod
any parent dumb enough to allow their daughter to wear a thong under a skirt at a dance, (where, gosh mommy, i didnt know it would flare up and get all the adolescent morally bereft horndogs -guys and girls, yuk, nowadays- all worked up, but thats what i hope to do there), are dumb enough to be surprised when the kid comes home knocked up or infected with std's.

parents should figure out that the std thing wasnt around when they were their kids age, if they dont have any moral understanding.

195 posted on 04/30/2002 7:26:20 AM PDT by galt-jw
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To: general_re
That's how HG defined it originally in post #68 - I didn't set the terms, he did. But it's a sucker's bet - the parents and the students have virtually no chance of winning a civil suit if one is brought.

Right. The bet is that the "parents" will not prevail in a civil suit over the "school" based on any B-o-R type of offense. If the parents don't file a suit, no bet.

But you're right: it is a sucker bet, and I'll feel a moment of guilt when I collect my 2 bills.


196 posted on 04/30/2002 7:26:49 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: xzins; Texaggie79
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197 posted on 04/30/2002 7:27:36 AM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Lose-lose situation.

"First thing (my daughter) said when she got into the car was, 'Mom, it was horrible last night. You have to fight this,'" Teal told 10News.

If the daughter had come home in rough shape because her scantily clad privates proved to be to much of a temptation for a couple of football players, Mom would be mad too. And lawsuits would ensue. The school is culpable for the safety of students at school functions. However unseemly this "inspection" was, it's only a reaction to parental irresponsiblity.

BTW, public schools suck in all ways, and my kid will never darken the door of one.

198 posted on 04/30/2002 7:28:47 AM PDT by Old Fud
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To: hobbes1
sorry, but you won't be getting my vote for the next Supreme Court vacancy.

omniscience must quite the burden, ehh ?

ya know, we used to have a Fourteenth Amendment in this nation too.
then some folks with your kind of 'logic' managed to slip in a little thing called the Interstate Commerce Clause ...

199 posted on 04/30/2002 7:30:53 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: vin-one
"You two need to lighten up a little, Thong underwear, for mini-skirts is probably a little to much, but nothing wrong with wearing them, I have teenage daughters and they wear them and like them. "

Sorry, no can do! It is a matter of teaching virtue and chastity and not be duplicitous.
200 posted on 04/30/2002 7:30:59 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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