1 posted on
04/27/2002 6:26:39 PM PDT by
l33t
To: l33t
A buddy of mine, who lives in Israel, says that the IDF deliberately bulldozes the terrorists' homes because they know that they get money from outside sources, so they want the families of the dead to spend their windfall on rebuilding their homes rather than feeling like they won the lottery. I'm all for it.
To: l33t
If I were Human Rights Watch, I'd be very careful before slinging around words like whitewash. To my mind it sounds like a whitewash is being conducted to obfuscate the fact that the Palestinians and their useful idiots LIED about there having been a massacre in the first place.
3 posted on
04/27/2002 6:30:39 PM PDT by
mewzilla
To: l33t
" 'There is simply no evidence of a massacre. But we are worried that Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage done to the civilian sector.' There is still no electricity in the camp, burst water pipes have flooded low lying areas, and the camp's two schools remain closed. "LOL...what a bunch of sillies, trying to qualify a statement whicj might be construed as supporting Israel with such drivel about "electricity" and "water pipes" and "two schools"!
EVERYBODY knows refugee camps don't electric and running water! Next they'll be whining that the IDF knocked out the AIR CONDITIONING and SEWERS, TV and CELL PHONE TOWERS!! LOL...What a HOOT! </SARCASM>
It's good news that "aid workers" state thare is no evidence whatsoever of "massacre"...but it's unlikely that this fact will have any bearing on the EUN's findings.
To: l33t
The area of the worst destruction has come to be known among foreign rescue workers, Palestinians, and IDF soldiers alike, as "Ground Zero."Mr Bouckaert, I've been to Ground Zero. And believe me, you don't have a Ground Zero.
5 posted on
04/27/2002 6:56:00 PM PDT by
upchuck
To: l33t
"... the large number of unexploded ordinance lying about the camp." Someone needs to tell this "journalist" that munitions are "ordnance", not "ordinance".
7 posted on
04/27/2002 7:02:09 PM PDT by
etcetera
To: l33t
...there was clearly no massacre.
Aid workers and local doctors have found 52 corpses so far.... OK, I don't get it. What about 52 and counting isn't a massacre?
9 posted on
04/27/2002 7:05:32 PM PDT by
StACase
To: l33t
The area of the worst destruction has come to be known among foreign rescue workers, Palestinians, and IDF soldiers alike, as "Ground Zero." I can't even begin to tell you how offensive I find this. They belittle what has happened at the WTC by comparing it to this ridiculously minor event. How do they even DARE call it "ground zero"?
To: l33t
Has Human Rights Watch investigated the PLO kamikaze attacks against Israel?
To: l33t
But we are worried that Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage done to the civilian sector." There is still no electricity in the camp, burst water pipes have flooded low lying areas, and the camp's two schools remain closed. First of all, if it wasn't a massacre of civilians, then it was obviously a war zone. It couldn't, then, be "damage to the civilian sector", since the sector was being used by militants to make bombs, and the places were booby trapped. That's not a "civilian sector" but a defended militia sector.
Second, they call this a camp, yet it had civilian brick and mortar houses and plumbing. Where I come from, we call that a town, not a camp.
So, what is there to whitewash? Was there destruction? Obviously. Was it justified? Apparantly from this and other reports... yes.
To: l33t
"The majority of those killed," said Peter Bouckaert, a senior researcher at US-based Human Rights Watch posted to Jenin, "were killed by snipers.
Yeah but whose snipers?
To: l33t
I>""There is simply no evidence of a massacre. But we are worried that Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage done to the civilian sector."
From the overhead pictures posted, it looks like 30 to 40 buildings were destroyed. Not enormous at all, the Palies decided to fight in the camps. The aggressors make the rules.
18 posted on
04/27/2002 9:29:37 PM PDT by
Kermit
To: l33t
Of course there's no evidence! If there was any, IDF cleaned it during the week after when it was in lockdown.
19 posted on
04/27/2002 9:53:20 PM PDT by
Plummz
To: l33t,monkeyshine, ipaq2000, Lent, veronica, Sabramerican, beowolf, Nachum, BenF, angelo, boston_l
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20 posted on
04/28/2002 7:45:47 AM PDT by
dennisw
To: l33t
Aid workers and local doctors have found 52 corpses so far. The workers believe that 21 of them were civilians, including four women, two 14 year old boys, two invalids, and two or three elderly men. "There is simply no evidence of a massacre. But we are worried that Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage done to the civilian sector."
Not surprisingly, facts and logic are very inconvinient for this radical lib brigade when they need to further their political agenda.
I wonder, would they undertake to estimate what is the percentage of teenagers, elderly people and civilians in general among the Israeli victims of the Palestinian terror?
And doesn't it merit a UN investigation of possible war crimes commited by their ideological brethern the Arabs?
35 posted on
04/28/2002 6:52:07 PM PDT by
Neophyte
To: l33t
"There is simply no evidence of a massacre. But we are worried that Israel will use this fact to whitewash the enormous amount of damage done to the civilian sector." Non-babelfish translation: "There was no massacre! This is simply a catastrophe, we had relied on this for the continued UN offensive against Israel. Even if our Hamas/Al-Aqsa friends carry a few extra corpses into Jenin it is doubtful if it will be enough. What to do, what to do...."
45 posted on
04/29/2002 6:57:19 AM PDT by
Cachelot
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