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THE REAL NAZIS
The Logical View ^ | 4/25/02 | MARK A SITY

Posted on 04/25/2002 9:13:11 AM PDT by logic101.net

THE REAL NAZIS
4/25/02

I just read an article on the Drudge report about the recent success in France of an "extreme right wing" candidate, putting him in the general election for their chief executive office. I am always amazed at the spin put on Conservatives by the left (and the press). I should be used to lies from them by now, but this one is so far off base that I still can't believe it has never been shut down.

Mr. Le Pen is now being called a Nazi because he isn't a Socialist/Liberal. (See Le Pen Booed; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41633-2002Apr24.html) The lack of courtesy shown by many in the French Parliament towards one of their own could be another posting in itself, but I suppose it is to be expected; they are not only Socialists, but French also.

What I would like to concentrate on here is the coordinated effort by the left worldwide to label all Conservatives as Nazis. Yellow stickers have appeared in France (hmmm, interesting choice of color) that state in bold letters, "STOP THE NAZIS". These are intended to refer to Mr. Le Pen, who is a Conservative (as far as France allows them to go that is). World wide there has been an effort by the left to equate Conservatives with the Nazis. This is a total fallacy, and always has been. I remember in School (unfortunately I went to a public school) the Nazi's were always placed on the far right of the political spectrum. "Communists" (no such thing; Communism has never existed in the world with any critter larger than an insect) and Socialists (which is what the "Communists" were and are; trust me on this - I aced Comparative Econ) are put on the left of the political spectrum. Fascists (i.e. the Nazis) are put on the far right. Yet, what does Nazi stand for? I have forgotten the full party name, but it was National Socialist party. The key word is Socialist; the far left.

Not convinced that the Nazi party was left wing? Let's look at some of the other factors. Which end of the political spectrum favors total government control of the economy? Which favors gun "control"? Which end favors preferential treatment for its supporters? In each case it is the left; yet, these are all stands pioneered by Hitler!

Still not convinced? Hitler also pioneered the Big Lie; "if you tell a lie often enough, loudly enough, and with enough conviction, it becomes the truth". The left uses this technique every day.

Now, let's get to the big issue; the Middle East and Israel. Who is supporting the Palestinian's right to eliminate Israel one mall, one restaurant, and one gathering at a time? Which side is perpetrating hate crimes against Jews in far distant nations? Which side is now allowing Jews to be exempt from the PC doctrine they created? Gee, that is all the Left wing. Now, who made a career of killing off Jews? Hmmm, wasn't his name Hitler? Who killed off even more Jews than Hitler? His name was Joe Stalin, of USSR (The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST States) Fame.

The Left has successfully created the impression that the Nazi's were right wingers, using Hitler's own technique, the Big Lie. I'm sure Hitler doesn't mind though; his students have learned well. He always did believe in the theory that the end justifies the means.

MARK A SITY

http://www.logic101.net/


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KEYWORDS: france; nazi
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1 posted on 04/25/2002 9:13:12 AM PDT by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
Le Pen is many things. He is NOT a conservative in any sense that we in America are. He is pro minimum wage, isolationist, and his "pro-family" policy includes paying people (the womenfolk) to sit home on their asses. He is closer to some sort of Bizarro Pat Buchanan than any Conservative west of the Atlantic.
2 posted on 04/25/2002 9:24:52 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: logic101.net
Mr. Le Pen is now being called a Nazi because he isn't a Socialist/Liberal. No, he is called a Nazi becasue of his racist views, not the policies he proposes.
3 posted on 04/25/2002 9:30:20 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: logic101.net
Fascism and it's cuddle buddy, Nazism(nationalist socialist worker's party), come from the spoutings of Antonio Gramsci, who said, in essence, that the people required to make socialism work were too smart to accept the idiocy of it all. So you have to trick them with nationalism and the trappings of nobility and/or an appeal to a (often made up)glorious past.

Nobody will sacrifice for the sake of some people on the other side of the world, (workers of the world, unite! remember that nonsense?)but they will sacrifice for their own perceived kind. That's how he proposed to get socialism going. Probably the most important thinker(in a bad way)of the last couple hundred years. Look at all the damage his followers have done. We are still repairing the damage they did for the last two terms.

4 posted on 04/25/2002 9:30:37 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Mr. Bird
Le Pen is many things. He is NOT a conservative in any sense that we in America are.

Le Pen is not an American. For him to be "a conservative in any sense that we in America are," he must support the preservation of what he believes is important in the French heritage, in the French culture, by means consistent with that French heritage and French culture. It is precisely the same with us. We support the presrvation of the values of Washington and Jefferson, because that is our culture, our heritage.

It is the Left that insists on one dogma, one set of values for all mankind. The essence of Conservatism is very different.

Le Pen and we have a common enemy. It is the dedicated Left, that uses the tactics of smear and intimidation against anyone who would rally support for his or her traditional associations. (See The Battle Over Patterns Of Personal Identification.) He and we come under assault, because we refuse to accept the Collectivist demand for an undifferentiated humanity. And speaking of France, the Bourbon Government that sent its fleet to blockade the British at Yorktown, enabling our victory, did not share the vision of the Founding Fathers. Does that make us less grateful?

I do not believe that Le Pen can possibly rally enough people to win in ten days, but the stronger his showing the better it will look for all of us who refuse to be intimidated by the smears of a common enemy.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

5 posted on 04/25/2002 9:39:59 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: logic101.net
The following statement substantially reduces the credibility of an otherwise decent article:

Who killed off even more Jews than Hitler? His name was Joe Stalin, of USSR (The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST States) Fame.

I am no fan of Joe Stalin, certainly one of the vilest mass murderers in history, but I'd like to see some sort of reasonable proof that he murdered more Jews than Hitler.

The math just doesn't work - there were roughly 18 million Jews alive in 1939, of which roughly 11 million lived in Europe. Hitler and his fellow murderers got 6 million, leaving Stalin "only" 5 million potential victims, unless he somehow sent Soviet Einsatzgruppen overseas to murder at least 1 million more Jews. In the absence of me being in the Twilight Zone, I don't think that Stalin murdered all 5 million remaining European Jews, let alone another million outside of Europe. By the way, a large number of the surviving Jews in eastern and western Europe went to what became Israel or to the US. Many are still left in Europe, particularly in France (comment: probably not for very much longer) and Great Britain. In addition, there were approximately 3 million left in the Soviet Union after WW2, and approximately 1 1/2 million emmigrated to Israel (primarily) and the US. Roughly 1 - 1 1/2 million are left in the nations that were the old Soviet Union. So how is it possible for Stalin to have murdered more than 6 million Jews?

6 posted on 04/25/2002 9:48:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: logic101.net
N.S.D.A.P. = National Socialist German Workers Party.
8 posted on 04/25/2002 10:32:17 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: TopQuark
His racism only makes him a psuedo-Nazi.....were he ALSO a socialist, THEN he would be a "Nazi".
9 posted on 04/25/2002 10:34:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: logic101.net
Yet, what does Nazi stand for? I have forgotten the full party name, but it was National Socialist party. The key word is Socialist; the far left.

NSDAP was the acronym, Natzsional Socializten Deutches Arbeiter's Partie, (sp?), stood for the National Socialist German Worker's Party. They did NOT ban all unions, or organisations, just the ones who they considered a threat. The only reason Leftists hated nazis is because Uncle Joe told them to.

10 posted on 04/25/2002 10:40:09 AM PDT by jonascord
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To: logic101.net
Socilist = Nazi
11 posted on 04/25/2002 10:42:49 AM PDT by jetson
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To: logic101.net
Good article! BTTT
13 posted on 04/25/2002 10:47:29 AM PDT by Bump in the night
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To: Mr. Bird
All of which makes me like him even more.
16 posted on 04/25/2002 1:30:19 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: TopQuark
"Racist" views? Isn't that how the Left characterizes the views of Israel?
17 posted on 04/25/2002 1:31:05 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Grumpy925
The Nazis also outlawed labor unions.

I believe the Soviets did as well.

18 posted on 04/25/2002 1:51:13 PM PDT by timm22
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I really do not care about splitting hairs about the labels when the very lives of people are at stake. And, if you have any morals in you, neither should you.
20 posted on 04/25/2002 4:02:01 PM PDT by TopQuark
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