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WITH THIS RING I THEE SODOMIZE
Chronicles Magazine ^ | April 2, 2002 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 04/22/2002 2:48:37 PM PDT by A. Pole

April 2, 2002

WITH THIS RING I THEE SODOMIZE by Thomas Fleming

Kudos to Jonathan Rauch for his letter-perfect parody of liberal smugness. Writing in the latest Atlantic, Rauch waxes Polonian as he blames conservatives for undermining marriage:


      Those who worry about the example gays would set by marrying
      should be much more worried about the example gays are already
      setting by not marrying . . . At a time when marriage needs all the
      support and participation it can get, homosexuals are pleading to
      move beyond cohabitation.  We want the licenses, the vows, the
      rings, the honeymoons, the anniversaries, the benefits, and, yes,
      the responsibilities and the routines.  And who is telling us just to
      shack up instead?  Self-styled friends of matrimony.
Ironic, isn’t it? The very words he uses--"ironic" and "sad." How ironic that people who are revolted by homosexuality are so short sighted not to apply the sacred term "marriage" to practices that they regard as obscene.

Robert Frost once described the liberal as someone "unwilling to take his own side in an argument." Some of this reluctance to defend their own point of view stems from the liberals’ insistence upon appropriating other people’s positions. Liberals are always telling conservatives what a "real conservative" should believe, but Rauch has gone all the way, instructing "social conservatives," who are for the most part practicing Christians and Jews that to be true to their values they must endorse homosexual marriage and set aside the traditional Christian (and conservative) view of homosexuality as an unnatural vice. Because, you see, to be really conservative, you have to be--what else?--liberal. The same goes for being really Christian or really old-fashioned. And if you think this makes sense, you are really dumb.

The policies promoted by stupid liberals destroyed marriage, and now another set of stupid liberals want to take the next step. Let them. Let them redefine marriage to cover significant relationships between lesbians and their cocker spaniels. All they will do is to teach Christians and conservatives not to look to the government for moral support. If I were a young "social conservative" contemplating marriage, I think I would forego the usual government dog license and content myself with the vows exchanged in church. These people have nothing to say to us about anything, and I would not believe them if they told me the right time while I was staring at my own watch.

If conservatives could ever get over the idea that they are running the country, if they could wake up to the fact that their enemies are destroying everything good, decent, and true, they might begin to understand that there is no point to compromising with the left. If we are true to our principles, they will attack us, and they will continue to attack until we cry uncle--as most conservatives do, fairly early in the game.

We don’t have to be rude or call them names. We can tell them, ever so politely, that ours is the party of Christ and theirs is the party of Anti-Christ. We create; they destroy; we remember; they forget. We speak truth; they lie--all the time and about everything. Once you are clear in your own mind, you are free to go about your business with the same cheerful spirit as the Christians displayed in the days of Diocletian.

Copyright 2002, www.ChroniclesMagazine.org
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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; left; narriage
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1 posted on 04/22/2002 2:48:37 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
Don't forget the wedding gerbil.
2 posted on 04/22/2002 2:53:54 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale
LOL....pretty funny comment. Did your "name" come from Monty Python's Flying Circus?
3 posted on 04/22/2002 3:01:09 PM PDT by my4kidsdad
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To: A. Pole
When two guys marry, which is the husband and which is the wife? If they're "Christians", who plays the head of the family? Which one says "Love, honor and obey"? Do they flip a coin? Do they take turns, on alternating days? Which one shows up for the Father-Daughter dance? The Mother-Daughter fashion show?
4 posted on 04/22/2002 3:01:32 PM PDT by Argus
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To: A. Pole
I once silenced my very liberal college professor uncle on this subject by asking, "Well, if you're going to sanction same-sex marriages, why not men and boys? What's the objection to that? And if that, why not women and dogs?"

Boy, did that argument piss him off. Heh heh heh.

5 posted on 04/22/2002 3:02:21 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: my4kidsdad
Did your "name" come from Monty Python's Flying Circus?

Yes, Spiney Norman was already here.

6 posted on 04/22/2002 3:03:57 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: A. Pole
This is GREAT & cleverly written! Am forwarding it to all in my email address book.
7 posted on 04/22/2002 3:06:47 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: A. Pole
We can tell them, ever so politely, that ours is the party of Christ and theirs is the party of Anti-Christ.

Good up to this point. They won't be impressed by a line like this -- more likely they'd laugh. And besides, it's smugness of the sort for which Mr. Fleming rightly criticizes Mr. Rauch.

Better to follow Peter's advice: Maintain good conduct among the Gentiles, so that in case they speak against you as wrongdoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation. (1 Peter 2:12)

8 posted on 04/22/2002 3:21:40 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: A. Pole

Building a Highway to Hershey.

11 posted on 04/22/2002 3:30:08 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: erizona; Clint N. Suhks; FormerLib; Yakboy; Khepera; John O; Illbay; L.N. Smithee; Buffalo Bob...
Ping
12 posted on 04/22/2002 4:12:33 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: IncPen
"Well, if you're going to sanction same-sex marriages, why not men and boys? What's the objection to that?

I am not championing same sex marriages but there is a world of difference between what two consenting adults chose to do and what an adult and a child do and you know it.

13 posted on 04/22/2002 4:17:18 PM PDT by riley1992
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To: A. Pole
At a time when marriage needs all the support and participation it can get, homosexuals are pleading to move beyond cohabitation. We want the licenses, the vows, the rings, the honeymoons, the anniversaries, the benefits, and, yes, the responsibilities and the routines. And who is telling us just to shack up instead? Self-styled friends of matrimony.

Incredible. It's hard to believe that these people believe their own nonsense -- that is, if they do.

14 posted on 04/22/2002 4:18:45 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: AlexanderTheGreat
Oo. When's the Mother-Daughter Fashion Show?

I have no idea. That's my wife's department. That illustrates my point - if two guys marry, they duplicate all the functions otherwise apportioned according to traditional sex roles. Marriage isn't supposed to double your workload and complicate your life. It's supposed to make things easier, via delegation of responsibility. Among other things.

15 posted on 04/22/2002 4:21:50 PM PDT by Argus
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To: A. Pole
What about polygamy
Consenting adults
18 posted on 04/22/2002 4:34:15 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: riley1992
"I am not championing same sex marriages but there is a world of difference between what two consenting adults chose to do and what an adult and a child do and you know it."

What is your age hangup?

20 posted on 04/22/2002 4:59:59 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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