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Patriots Rally For America San Francisco version 4/20/02
21 April 2002 | CounterCounterCulture / Photographer: Syncro

Posted on 04/21/2002 9:36:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Patriots Rally For America – San Francisco version – 4/20/02

Today the main Freepers rally to counter the Palestinian/Anarchists/”Peaceniks” /whatever was in Washington D.C. There was a west coast version in the Baghdad-by-the-Bay (San Francisco).

The total attendance on our side was about 14-15. Freepers included…


And others not associated with FR that was disgusted with the leftist hate-mongers such as Mary, Darren, Carol, Ron, Joseph, a veteran, and my friend Pat. There were a few others whose names I didn’t write down.

Deeel-me-in (David), Pat, and myself commuted up from San Jose to voice our disgust with the opposition. Perhaps it was an omen, but we barely escaped getting sideswiped by a pickup truck that spun out of control on the I-280 freeway and ended up facing the other direction without rolling over by the time he or she stopped.

We arrived the civic center parking lot at about noon, our rally start point. Drango and mac_truck were all ready for us and somehow our patriotic garb gave us away. :-)

By about 12:20, we had our signage and bullhorn all set for Freeping in front of City Hall. The other side was doing a 2-mile march from Dolores Park to the Civic Center Plaza, across the street from City Hall. But there was already a large contingent of Palestinians and supporters across from us who weren’t doing the march. We could see many Palestinian flags as well as the various left-wing booths, soundstage, and of course buses.

Soon we caught them off guard with our pro-America/pro-Israel group that was about ten strong at this point. Once American Preservative and Syncro (a.k.a., Dr. Zoo) arrived, we gave them a good showing.

Our signs were decidedly pro-American, pro-Israel, and anti-terrorist/Arafat. The other side had the typical offensive signs equating or superimposing the swastika over the Star of David.

The media, KPIX-5 and Spanish language station KDTV-14, along with the San Jose Mercury News, covered and interviewed our unexpected group. Other stations had coverage too but probably followed the parade of fools and were too late by the time all hell broke loose at City Hall.

Early in our rally, the police captain came over to strategize with our group, fearing for our safety with our small numbers compared to their thousands in what the news coverage had described as the “largest march in twenty years,” which is saying something in lefty demonstration friendly San Francisco. The captain was friendly to us and we were equally concerned about our safety. He said if the other side was to get out of hand, which of course was probable, then our group would retreat inside City Hall until things calmed down.

By 1:45pm, the Paleswinians were about halfway across the street chanting inane and hateful slogans toward us and then the parade of fools veered left and headed for City Hall instead of the park. At that point the police officer gave us the sign to move back and then inside City Hall for our own protection. So the leftists trumped our First Amendment rights, not too unusual.

While we were huddled inside near the doors, there was a wedding inside the central part of the building, so we had to keep the noise down in the echoing building. The members were, I think, Japanese, so the police were able to use a little racial profiling to know which ones to let in the building in which ones to keep out.

We looked around and noticed Syncro was missing from our group but were relieved to see him outside playing the part of photographer, documenting the insanity close up.

After a while, the head of security inside City Hall was uncomfortable with our presence at the front and gave us options of either hanging out in the cafeteria downstairs or leaving out the back. About half of us split and the other confabbed downstairs. The catch was that we had to leave our signs off to the side at the front of the building, not being allowed to carry them inside.

So in the cafeteria, a.k.a., The Bunker, myself, Joseph, Pat, deeel-me-in, American Preservative, and eventually Syncro. Also in the bunker were other cops on break before they headed out to join the insanity outside. We could hear over their radios that an Israeli flag was being burned, which Syncro was able to catch on film.

After a while when it seemed too risky to go back out to finish our protest, we gathered back our signs and headed out the side door and stored them in Syncro’s Dr. of Phenomenology vehicle and, except for Joseph, went out for lunch at a Japanese restaurant and shot the breeze. By the time we got done, about 5pm, the leftist swine were taking down their soundstage and stuff, with the park looking like a mess, as usual. And so we live to fight another day against the hateful left in our closest call thus far.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arafat; firstamendment; hate; hitler; israel; law; mob; nazis; palestine; peaceniks; sanfrancisco; terrorism; war
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To: American Preservative; CounterCounterCulture; Syncro; deeel-me-in; Pat; Joseph
FRice Krispies bunker brunch ping. We live to FReep another day! : )
101 posted on 04/23/2002 10:16:02 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
I can't stay awake long enough during the morning show so I don't know if it was mentioned (5am is wayyyy to early for me). The weekend's happenings were touched upon a bit with the 8am David Horowitz interview, but I think that focused more on what Horowitz saw in DC.
102 posted on 04/23/2002 10:19:06 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: American Preservative
BTW, if you were watching KTVU Channel 2 news at the top of the hour, the Berzerkeley council voted 4-3 (2 abstentions) NOT to divest economically from Israel like they did in South Africa. There were about an equal amount of demonstrators outside on both sides.

I haven't seen anything yet on the newswires to post.

103 posted on 04/23/2002 10:24:33 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
That's about all I heard too.
#103 - Wow. Hmmm...interesting.
104 posted on 04/23/2002 10:40:38 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: *San FRancisco; Cool Guy; jrherreid; GodBlessAmerica; CounterCounterCulture; .38sw; 2Fro...
FYI ping. The Leftists/PLOers (Oops, I think they're calling themselves "peaceniks") will be marching again -
From: www.sf.indymedia.org

Saturday, April 27, 2002, San Francisco peace demonstration at 11 a.m., starting at 24th and Mission and marching to the UN Plaza. The contact number is 415/861-7444.

Are there any FReepers interested in countering them at the UN Plaza?

105 posted on 04/24/2002 7:31:30 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: American Preservative
Yes - but we have our own peacenik pest problem here on the East Coast. Go get them again! Eagles Up!
106 posted on 04/24/2002 8:04:10 PM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Just a bump and another thanks.
107 posted on 04/24/2002 8:05:10 PM PDT by VaMarVet
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To: American Preservative
Gotta work this Saturday. I was fortunate to get last Saturday off.
108 posted on 04/24/2002 10:58:55 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Hello, I am Carol, the women with the cane, who joined you and the small band of brave Americans to stand up to the rag-tag (and I mean that literally!) mob of anti-USA/western world "protesters" on April 20th in front of San Francisco's City Hall. My apologies for this delay in telling you and the others who read this message how proud I was to be with you (thanks to the guys who, seeing me standing about looking unhappy, spoke to me first about their reasons for being there!) I am grateful that you and the others provided a supportive team for me and anyone else who refused to let the vile event go unchallenged. We faced people who included illegal aliens, we were cursed and threatened, we were misquoted and misrepresented in the press, we found the police our tax dollars pay for could not protect our right to free speech and we were advised to hide or discard our nation's flags lest we be attacked by the "peace marchers" as we made our way along the streets those tax dollars paved and the marchers fouled. I was thrilled that everyone held his or her ground in the face of such abuse and I will stand beside any of you any time you stand up for America and her allies. (And, I still believe we could have taken that mob--1000/2000 to 1 odds was do-able! But at least as I looked at the excellent photos I could say:"No police were harmed in the making of this picture.") This understood, what I read on this site is often troubling and unsulting to me as a Gay women and one who has been successful in all the ways most of those at freerepublic seem to espouse. I am a law abiding, sensible, country-loving 1st generation American; I worked my way off welfare in my teens; I have achieved international honors in my profession; my bio is in Who's Who In The World; the firm I co-founded was twice on INC. Magazine's list of "America's 500 Fastest-Growing Private Companies"; I have a partner of 33 years who (along with me) has provided 1000s of jobs and paid many millions in taxes; I vote faithfully; I serve my community; I support my police and fire departments; I am nice to animals and I am even patient with socialist dupes. But, because I am Gay some at freerepublic would not have stood with me had you known that before I arrived. We Americans can not afford that diversion from the real issues at hand--the security and economic future of our nation, our core ideals and the next generation. Get over me. I am not the threat. I am your ally in this terrible fight. Later you can get back to hating me if you want, for now...let's win! P.S. Dear CCC: All the best to you and the others! Please feel free to forward this message to anyone you think should see it.
109 posted on 05/01/2002 11:06:38 AM PDT by nastypumps
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To: nastypumps
We love you Carol! You stood up for America, while most people stayed home. You are an inspiration to us all. Dont let the nay-sayers get you down. Hope to see you at the next bay area FR event. -mac
110 posted on 05/02/2002 11:34:48 AM PDT by mac_truck
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To: CounterCounterCulture; deeel-me-in; American Preservative; Drango; mac_truck; deeel-me-in...
How about a big bay area BUMP to Nastypumps (aka Carol) from the Patriots rally on4/20?
111 posted on 05/02/2002 11:41:32 AM PDT by mac_truck
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To: nastypumps
Proud to stand with you Carol...at the same time I love the sinner but hate the sin. Make no mistake about it, I believe you lifestyle to be wrong, but I'll drink a beer with you anytime, and if the cause is just, I'll march with you.
112 posted on 05/02/2002 11:58:24 AM PDT by Drango
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To: nastypumps
Welcome aboard Carol! Glad you enjoyed the report and pictures. Let me say first and foremost, I'd be honored and privileged to stand with you against the faces of evil.

As far as the homosexuality discussions go, yes, I’m sure you feel quite uncomfortable with the manner of what some Freepers project in their writings. I comment on those threads only once in a while but I hopefully try to keep it civil even when I disagree with the radical homosexual advocates.

Many people at this site, conservative and libertarian, would be rather content not to hear about what goes on in somebody's bedroom, gay or straight. I feel the same way, and get irritated when somebody’s sexuality is thrown in my face, gay or straight. I can’t pretend to understand why people engage in homosexual activity, but hey, it’s your life. Being a native of the Bay Area, I’ve befriended homosexuals, but usually stay clear of politics with them. :-)

At the same time, the radical homosexual movement really sets us off, from extreme groups like NAMBLA, ACT-UP, and those who want to force discussing sexuality on kids as young as five years old. Maybe you agree with us on some points, maybe not. And then some of the spokespeople such as Rosie O’Donnell, well, she has the ire of us just alone because of her anti-gun views. Her recently outing and advocacy only enflames us more.

Maybe it would be best if you didn't torture yourself with the gay threads, but if you do see any extreme language or advocacy of violence towards homosexuals, feel free to hit the abuse button as the owner of this site is against any violence, profanity, and personal attacks. Reasonable discussions of issues are highly encouraged. Heck, there are some threads on other topics I avoid because of the kooks that drive those threads. You just have to choose your battles wisely.

We also pride ourselves in being "politically incorrect" and exercising free speech. If you buck some of the leftist philosophies, you would be labeled politically incorrect too. An odd Freeper favorite in that vein could be Camille Paglia, a lesbian who’s a self-proclaimed "radical libertarian" and "dissident feminist." There are some views of hers I absolutely detest, and other views of hers that are right on the money.

With you being Jewish, a woman, and a lesbian, you certainly understand how somebody like you would fare in an Arab/Muslim country where homosexuals are jailed or even killed, not to mention women and/or Jews. On the way home from our little rally, I was commenting on how the homosexual community should come together like they do in other causes and come out against the vile hatred that we experienced on April 20. Homosexuals sure do know how to come together and rally. If you have ties, maybe that’s something you can work on.

In closing, do feel free to promote or keep up-to-date with any activism like we did two Saturdays ago that would be consistent with our conservative philosophy.

By the way, neat screenname :-)

113 posted on 05/02/2002 12:37:36 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: mac_truck
Done :-)
114 posted on 05/02/2002 12:41:46 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: LurkerNoMore!; Dr. Zoo
The tripod is in the mail? Uh huh...

I did manage to get some pretty good *pictures* over the years though dontcha think?

Even without the evasive "tripod"



115 posted on 06/12/2003 1:03:15 AM PDT by Syncro (Amatuer that I am...)
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To: Syncro
Oh, thought you could bump an old thread of mine without me find out about it, eh?

116 posted on 06/15/2003 9:08:47 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (BEHOLD! The Power of Cheese!!!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Dr. Zoo
Sorry, Big Al.

:>(

I am suprized anyone even sees my occasional obscure posts.

But I was using my Poetic License that I got from Dr. Zoo at the Institute of Phenomonology before it closed for restructuring.

Neverthelessormore, I will make it up to you with a picture of some of your favorite things.

Kenny comes through here a few times a year and we try to get together when he does...and I always have a little something for him to sign. (We hate coors, but what the heck, an endorsement is an endorsement)

He signed these and the Black Sirburban (sic) *LOL*

Might do a commission for him, can you believe it he is considering a snake?...Who'dove thunk that?

117 posted on 06/19/2003 3:06:50 PM PDT by Syncro (Are some jokes too far "inside"? Art Illustrates Life...)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Are you at the game?

LOL

Oh and thanks for thanking me for your present...heh
118 posted on 10/20/2003 3:59:19 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: CounterCounterCulture
OK. This the last straw.

You are going to thank me for the pictures, or I will remove them!

What am I chopped liver?

I'm Seris!!!!!!!

119 posted on 03/20/2004 8:46:57 PM PST by Syncro
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Nice work C3! Keep the group together as we still have work to do with the "National Day of Vigilance Against Terrorism" on Sept 11!
120 posted on 03/20/2004 8:51:46 PM PST by Bob J (www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
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