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Japanese supercomputer takes world's fastest title from US
Ananova ^ | 4/20/2002 | Unknown

Posted on 04/20/2002 7:19:58 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye

Japanese supercomputer takes world's fastest title from US

A new Japanese supercomputer has taken the title of world's fastest away from the US.

The NEC Earth Simulator processes data five times faster than its closest competitor.

It works at a speed of 35,600 gigaflops compared to its closest rival, IBM's ASCI White, which runs at a speed of 7,226 gigaflops.

A gigaflop equals a billion mathematical operations per second.

The NEC Earth Simulator is as large as four tennis courts and creates a "virtual planet Earth" to predict climate patterns.

Jack Dongarra, a University of Tennessee computer science professor, leads the group of researchers that tracks the world's 500 speediest computers.

"This machine is more powerful than the 20 fastest computers in the US," Mr Dongarra said. "It's more powerful than all of the Department of Energy and Department of Defence computers together."

Today's most popular supercomputers use a massively parallel processing system, in which thousands of mass-produced microprocessors are linked to solve complex problems.

NEC calls the Earth Simulator a "vector parallel" computer, which combines parallel processing with vector processing.

The TOP500 list is compiled by researchers at the University of Mannheim in Germany and the University of Tennessee. The list ranks computers by their performance on Dongarra's Linpack Benchmark, a standardised measure of a computer's speed at solving a "dense system of equations.

Story filed: 00:33 Sunday 21st April 2002


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: computer; fastest; japan; super; techindex
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Hopefully the Japanese have no desire to avenge Tokyo, Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
1 posted on 04/20/2002 7:19:58 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Hmmmm. Could this work in my next laptop? I can dream.
2 posted on 04/20/2002 7:24:51 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Thanks,my brother just called to see if I could find some info on this subject. He wanted to know who would be producing it.
3 posted on 04/20/2002 7:25:34 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Yeah, but can it drive as well as US supercomputers?
4 posted on 04/20/2002 7:26:56 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: dalebert
I read that Cray Computers has the U.S. franchise to sell these things, but that US computer makers are holding up US sales b/c they say the Japanese are selling them at "dumping" prices.
5 posted on 04/20/2002 7:28:20 PM PDT by maro
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To: dalebert
Sounds like the company is NEC.
6 posted on 04/20/2002 7:33:32 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Unknown Freeper
Now it's the size of 4 tennis courts. Give them few more years, and it will be no bigger than a walkman.
7 posted on 04/20/2002 7:34:20 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Pistias
Yeah, but can it drive as well as US supercomputers?

If Lexus, Infiniti and Acura are indicators, yes it can.

8 posted on 04/20/2002 7:36:24 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Thanks.
9 posted on 04/20/2002 7:39:04 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: UnBlinkingEye
"It's more powerful than all of the Department of Energy and Department of Defence computers together."

Maybe. But then again, maybe not. I wouldn't be surprised if the US had a number of super-advanced goodies under wraps.

10 posted on 04/20/2002 7:40:28 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Ok, someone clear up my confusion here. Which is faster, 35,600 gigaflops or 4 teraflops?

I ask because we have the Cheetah at the Oak Ridge National Lab and it's a 4 teraflop system. The system has 1 TByte of memory and 24 Tbyte of HD.

11 posted on 04/20/2002 7:41:34 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: UnBlinkingEye
The NEC Earth Simulator is as large as four tennis courts and creates a "virtual planet Earth" to predict climate patterns.

it's program can predict weather patterns over the next 24 hours to 90% accuracy.

on the downside, the program takes 72 hours to run.

yes, i'm kidding.

12 posted on 04/20/2002 7:44:30 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: maro
NEC recently released the SV6, which replaces the SV5 supercomputer. NEC has a huge presence pretty much limited to outside the USA because Cray successfully demonstrated to congress that the Japanese were 'dumping' supercomputers at or below cost in the USA. As Cray is not supported by the gov't (it does receive grants, but is not in any way entirely funded by Uncle Sam), Cray could not compete against a corporation larger than itself, who was subsidized by Japan. Thus NEC was prevented from selling their machines in the USA.

However, around 6 months ago, Cray negotiated a deal in which they would be the sole distributor of NEC supercomputers in the USA, as well as receive a lump sum distribution from NEC, and thus petitioned congress to once again allow NEC to market and sell their supercomputers domestically.

The reason Cray did this, was that in the field of supercomputers, there is a awful lot of trash-talk as far as specs goes. IBM claims to have a theoretical peak performance of 7.22 GFlops. Yes, sure and I have the theoretical capability to lift a greyhound bus, and throw it through a building. If you take anybody's PC, and benchmark it on some appliation; do you triple the applications performance if it runs simultaneously on 3 PC's? No, of course not. If you wire all 3 PC together, and they all work together, you may pick up some performance, but nowhere near 300%. So, bear with me ... when IBM takes 1,000 Pentium boxes, wires them together and then announces to the world that the 'theoretical performance' of the machine is 1,000x the performance of a single PC.... that's a lie.

To do this, you need to have a special chip architecture, along with a highly customized data distribution methodology (sorry, Gigabit or 100 BaseT isn't gonna even come close).

I work in this industry, and the claims are a bunch of poo. What should be of concern, is actual SUSTAINED performance, not theoretical peak...

13 posted on 04/20/2002 7:50:30 PM PDT by zlala
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NEC recently released the SX6, which replaces the SX5 supercomputer. NEC has a huge presence pretty much limited to outside the USA because Cray successfully demonstrated to congress that the Japanese were 'dumping' supercomputers at or below cost in the USA. As Cray is not supported by the gov't (it does receive grants, but is not in any way entirely funded by Uncle Sam), Cray could not compete against a corporation larger than itself, who was subsidized by Japan. Thus NEC was prevented from selling their machines in the USA.

However, around 6 months ago, Cray negotiated a deal in which they would be the sole distributor of NEC supercomputers in the USA, as well as receive a lump sum distribution from NEC, and thus petitioned congress to once again allow NEC to market and sell their supercomputers domestically.

The reason Cray did this, was that in the field of supercomputers, there is a awful lot of trash-talk as far as specs goes. IBM claims to have a theoretical peak performance of 7.22 GFlops. Yes, sure and I have the theoretical capability to lift a greyhound bus, and throw it through a building. If you take anybody's PC, and benchmark it on some appliation; do you triple the applications performance if it runs simultaneously on 3 PC's? No, of course not. If you wire all 3 PC together, and they all work together, you may pick up some performance, but nowhere near 300%. So, bear with me ... when IBM takes 1,000 Pentium boxes, wires them together and then announces to the world that the 'theoretical performance' of the machine is 1,000x the performance of a single PC.... that's a lie.

To do this, you need to have a special chip architecture, along with a highly customized data distribution methodology (sorry, Gigabit or 100 BaseT isn't gonna even come close).

I work in this industry, and the claims are a bunch of poo. What should be of concern, is actual SUSTAINED performance, not theoretical peak...

14 posted on 04/20/2002 7:50:51 PM PDT by zlala
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Too bad NEC doesn't have any software to run on it.
15 posted on 04/20/2002 7:54:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Ok, someone clear up my confusion here. Which is faster, 35,600 gigaflops or 4 teraflops?

Teraflops is the winner, of course we are talking about computations per second.

I ask because we have the Cheetah at the Oak Ridge National Lab and it's a 4 teraflop system. The system has 1 TByte of memory and 24 Tbyte of HD.

So this system is capable of processing one teraflop (one second) of information and storing twenty four seconds?

16 posted on 04/20/2002 7:57:29 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Go do a search for Cheetah and ORNL. It's a new install at the ORNL site here in town - well, not really new, about 3 months or so.
18 posted on 04/20/2002 8:05:30 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: UnBlinkingEye
I do not understand this, ASCI white does 12 teraflops. Check it out at Fast computer
19 posted on 04/20/2002 8:09:01 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: UnBlinkingEye
The NEC Earth Simulator is as large as four tennis courts and creates a "virtual planet Earth" to predict climate patterns.

I hope they use good input data here, otherwise I smell another global warming scam.

20 posted on 04/20/2002 8:09:35 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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