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Predator priests: Link explored between gay clergy and ephebolphilia
The Washington Times, Culture section ^ | April 16, 2002 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 04/16/2002 3:31:26 PM PDT by FormerLib

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:38:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Unlike other Catholic priests convicted of sexual abuse, John J. Geoghan, Boston's defrocked priest linked to 136 molestations, targeted both pre-pubescent and sexually mature teen-age boys.

"He knew no bounds. His victims ranged in age from 6 to 15," said Boston lawyer Mitchell Garabedian, attorney for many of Geoghan's victims.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; ephebolphilia; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pedophilia; sasu
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Why are 90 to 95 — and some estimates say as high as 98 — percent of the victims of clergy acting out against teen-agers, boys? Why isn't there a higher percentage of teen-age girls?

Well, it certainly can't have anything to do with homosexuality!

...Dr. Fred Berlin...contends that regardless of any trend or pattern in priests' sexual orientation, there is no evidence that homosexual men...are any more likely to seek out adolescent boys for sex than heterosexual men are to go after teen-age girls.

Ah, I knew the intellectuals would be along to assure us!

This doesn't mean they are homosexual. They could be homosexual ephebophiles or homosexual pedophiles,"...Dr. Berlin said.

Um, Ok, so they can be homosexual ephebophiles or homosexual pedophiles but that doesn't mean that they are homosexuals. Okay, sure, fine, whatever. Maybe they're all just left-handed or something?

"I can certainly imagine [homosexaulity]'s a factor in some individual instances, but we don't have research to show it's a primary factor...

Oh right, unless a liberally-biased study "proves" it, it just ain't so! Now I'm catching (much as I loathe to use that term given the subject matter) on!

...the APA has downplayed the role of homosexuals in both pedophilia and in ephebophilia.

Also in the news: Grass is green! Sky is bleeping BLUE!

"It's a lie" to disassociate homosexuality from sexual abuse of male minors...

I think this falls into the "damned lie" category, Doc.

"It's obvious when you have a man and a teen-age boy that there is a same-sex element."

Update: Grass is STILL green! Sky is STILL bleepin' Blue!

I love the tap-dancing around the homosexual connection here! Will no one talk about the elephant in the room?

1 posted on 04/16/2002 3:31:26 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: homosexual agenda; Clint N Suhks; EdReform; Kevin Curry; Khepera
ping
2 posted on 04/16/2002 3:32:16 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Let's see...... Gay Priests..... young boys...... 1000's of cases... millions of dollars...

Nope don't see a problem.

The Catholic Church doesn't see a "problem"

The news media doesn't see a problem.

move along folks... nothing here to see....

Gay men don't really like young boys who are innocent and "unbroken". Who are vulnerable. Nope it's just a choice they've made to sleep and have sex with other men.....

This makes me want to puke when I read the Bull Shi'ite that is propagated to cover up homosexual predators. I'm a Catholic who is now going to a Presbyterian service on the weekend. The corrupted and pathetically sick Roman Catholic Church is a joke.... from the selling of "annulments", to the money grubbing for "charities in 3rd world countries" while the gold and real estate in this country alone would choke a horse....

3 posted on 04/16/2002 3:45:38 PM PDT by Dick Vomer
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To: FormerLib
"I love the tap-dancing...." It is far worse then many can imagine. Try reading the info at Roman Catholic Faithful at www.rcf.org.

Click on the St. Sebastians Angels blue link. After reading that ghastly demonic information, click on and read the Cardinal Bernardin links.

We are seeing just the tip of the iceberg; an iceberg that reaches down into the attic of Hell.

It is far worse, I fear, than even I imagine and my family's motto is "It is always darkest before the storm"

4 posted on 04/16/2002 3:51:07 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: FormerLib
These guys suffer fron SSAD
Same Sex Attraction Disorder
The church set themselves up for this when they turned to psychology instead of scripture for their moral guidance. All the new priests tell you about all the psychology courses they took at the Seminary. That is a field that preaches SSAD is actually just another "healthy" alternative. Are you really suprised at this result?
5 posted on 04/16/2002 3:58:47 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: Catholicguy
"I love the tap-dancing..."

They're not Gay.

They're just not into women.

That doesn't make them Gay. Just means that they are only partly celibate.

Semi-celibate, demi-quasi-celebrate, something like that.

I'm pretty sure Canon Law has it covered.

6 posted on 04/16/2002 4:00:22 PM PDT by billorites
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To: Dick Vomer
The Catholic Church doesn't see a "problem" ... I'm a Catholic who is now going to a Presbyterian service on the weekend

In case you haven't been informed, the Pope has called Most American Cardnials as well as the President of the NCCB to Rome next week to discuss this problem. AS for where you plan to worship this weekend. Good for you, from the tone of your post you'll fit right in...don't let the church door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

7 posted on 04/16/2002 4:01:53 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Dick Vomer
Please lay out the logical step-by-step by which you start with the fact that some Catholic priests are criminals, and conclude that the Presbyterian faith is true.
8 posted on 04/16/2002 4:02:39 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: FormerLib
Dr. Berlin said any adult male who repeatedly seeks sexual relations with adolescent minors has a sexual disorder known as "ephebophilia."

Ephebophilia is not specifically defined or even mentioned in the American Psychiatric Association's "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders," according to APA spokesman John Blamphin.

Of course it isn't, and that's the wonderful thing about psychology and soft sciences in general--you get to make it up as you go along with little-to-no research or evidence to back it up.

When I was in college there was a story in the college rag about an English major that couldn't pass her bonehead math requirement. By the time she was a senior she still hadn't passed the class (I believe it was elementary algebra) after several attempts, so the school had a psychologist interview her and voila' she was diagnosed with 'math phobia'. A special class was setup for 'math phobics', which she passed and ended up graduating.

9 posted on 04/16/2002 4:06:20 PM PDT by randog
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To: FormerLib
All these criminal Priests who preyed on post pubescent boys are Perverted Homosexual Criminals.

Homosexual by definition is sex with the same gender,these Perverts had sex with teenage boys ergo, they are Homosexual Felons..

You may choose to call them Ephebophiles or grasshoppers but they are Homosexuals.

In Cozzens Book it states that as many as 50% of Catholic Priests in America are Homosexuals.

My Deacon says that if they are not active Homosexuals then it's OK.

If it's all the same to everybody i'd just as soon not attend where a Homosexual Priest Celebrates the Mass.

In "Goodbye Goodmen" By Michael S.Rose, Seminarians dress up in Leathers on friday night and go out with their teachers to troll for sexual partners, No Thanks I'll have none of that crap.Who knows when they'll go active?

10 posted on 04/16/2002 4:08:25 PM PDT by chatham
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If it's all the same to everybody i'd just as soon not attend where a Homosexual Priest Celebrates the Mass.

Just be glad that you aren't an Episcopalian! They don't even attempt to hide it over there.

11 posted on 04/16/2002 4:18:46 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
The priest who wrote the article about his own problem said that he was first a homosexual and that the reason he was attracted to young boys was that his emotional development was stunted at that age.
12 posted on 04/16/2002 4:29:06 PM PDT by Eva
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To: FormerLib
Dr. Berlin said any adult male who repeatedly seeks sexual relations with adolescent minors has a sexual disorder known as "ephebophilia." "This doesn't mean they are homosexual. They could be homosexual ephebophiles or homosexual pedophiles," depending on the age of the youngsters, Dr. Berlin said.

Say what. No girls but that doesn't mean they are homosexual
Pefectly logical to me
13 posted on 04/16/2002 4:34:13 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: FormerLib
Why isn't there a higher percentage of teen-age girls?

I think he has a point here.  If there was ever a
case for affirmative action, this is it.

15 posted on 04/16/2002 5:02:12 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Dick Vomer
Are you leaving because you can no longer accept as true, in good conscience, the doctrines of the Catholic Church?

Or are you leaving because you do not believe that Christ will keep His promise that the gates of Hell shall not prevail against his Church?

16 posted on 04/16/2002 5:04:02 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: billorites
 
Semi-celibate, demi-quasi-celebrate, something like that.

That explains my semi-demi-hemi-quasi-homosexuality,
ie, I'd wouldn't touch Sandra Bernhart with a stick.

17 posted on 04/16/2002 5:05:29 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Arthur McGowan
 the Presbyterian faith is true.

Since the same god is involved,
how could one faith be true and
the other not?

18 posted on 04/16/2002 5:07:39 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: AlexanderTheGreat
...eenagers in high school who would presumably fight off any untoward advances like a totally capable teenager would, if he really wanted to?

Unless they'd been fed a bunch of baloney about there not being anything wrong with being homosexual?

These perverts are using their positions of authority against these boys. Plus, just like bullies, they target those who are least likely to fight back since they are cowards at heart.

19 posted on 04/16/2002 5:17:22 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: gcruse
...how could one faith be true and the other not?

The faith would not be true if it contradicted God, such as by appointing homosexual ministers despite knowing that God called this an abomination.

20 posted on 04/16/2002 5:18:39 PM PDT by FormerLib
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