***VANITY*** Comments on Heckler & Koch P7M8

[wardaddy]

OK..OK...another gun thread. Bang!

[wardaddy]

I had one in the early 80s...a P7 9MM....I can't recall the M(number). It was blued. Points like a finger. Great gun in my view. I wouldn't mind another one now but they are high dollar. Spy gun.

[ppaul]

ouch!

[tracer]

You might want to check out the H&K USP Compact .45, which is a very sweet piece. It's 8+1, not all that big and heavy when compared to an older S & W 9 mm. And it retails for around $750.00.

And H & K provides excellent and speedy service re: parts, spare mags, etc. This is one that is built to last, and, unless I'm mistaken, has found favor among US spec ops shooters as well....

[Squantos]

While in the service we used to attend gunsite, thunder ranch, LFI etc once a year and one year just for sh*ts and giggles I took my P7-13 to gunsite with me to plink with more than train with (1911A1 fan here) and had it laying on my class room table empty and slide locked to rear.

When the Man hisself (Cooper) came walking down the isle looking at each weapon and commenting (aka snide remarks) and when he stopped at my table he "asked" if he could look at it, released the slide and then put it muzzle down to the table squeezed the cocker a couple of times , locked the slide to the rear set it down, and as he walked away he informed me I was out of "staples"..............

I don't like the pistol as it requires and un-natural act that is not as I call memory-matic for the individual whom already is burdened with habitual traits with regards to shooting under stress.

I traded mine off years ago .....

Stay safe !

[Crowcreek]

I'd like to work up a lighter load for that heavy bullet, but with WW 296 it's pretty much got to be 'balls to the wall' -- or fireballs and hangfires, as I'm sure you know.

Mainly I was just trying to say something about dealing with heavy recoil. I hear a lot of shooters complain about the magnums but they just don't bother me much, and I too have fairly small hands. Maybe it has something to do with the firmness of the grip on the revolver, like Patton's black eye from solid contact with the comb of the G3.

P7 is gas operated? While the G3/91 is roller locked? I don't think I'm ready for Heckler and Koch . . .

[wardaddy]

Well....I wouldn't quibble with the "MAN" ...or you for that matter. I'm a .45 1911 style guy myself in semis.

Good thing ..it wasn't a HK P7OZ you had on the table that day...he woulda sh!t ....LOL

[CJinVA]

I have a USP .40 and I love it. Pre-ban 13 round clip. Bought brand new last year. Thinking about getting one of their compact 45s soon.

Next month I'm going on a tour of their Sterling VA. U.S. Headquarters. I understand they have a great firearms museum there. Can’t wait!

[AStack75]

I suggest going to HKPRO or Park Cities Tactical. Both are Heckler & Koch forums with very knowledgeable people. I've never shot a P7, but I love the USP series of HKs and also got the chance to shoot a couple HK sub-guns and they are all high quality firearms.

[AStack75]

Vigl, Go here for a sneak peak at the nice collection they have in Sterling, VA.

[CJinVA]

Thanks for the link, pretty cool stuff.

A friend of mine went to their company picnic and got to shoot one of their submachine guns. I think he said it was a UMP 45?

[VRWC_Member428]

Lots of people like the 1911 style of pistols. Have you checked out Kimber? They make 1911 style pistols chambered in 45ACP, 40, and 380 Super (kinda like 9mm).

[Squantos]

Never liked that ugly hard to control little german zip gun or the 93R Beretta . Now the Glock 18 .......:o) :o) :o) :o) :o).........That there is a 5 smile rated pistola fer sure !!

Stay Safe !

[AStack75]

I shot the UMP at a firing range in New Hampshire. Pretty cool gun. It's almost all plastic so it's really light weight. I prefered the MP5 over the UMP though. It feels a lot sturdier in your hands. But the UMP is very accurate when you shoot it in semi-auto mode.

[mondonico]

Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful and informative responses.

[mondonico]

I find the 1911 models appealing from both a firepower and a tradition perspective. As a pistol newbie, however, I'm a little hesitant--I've read comments about how it takes more training than usual to ensure safe handling. (Yes, yes, I know that EVERY firearm requires training.)

[Eagle Eye]

I've read comments about how it takes more training than usual to ensure safe handling

If Army privates could handle it, I'm sure you can.

[ParadigmLost]

Shooting a P7 is like shooting no other gun. I put probably 150+ rounds a week through it and love it. It’s the most accurate gun I have ever shot. The problem is that like potato chips it is very hard to only have one. If you checkout the Cult of the P7 you will see that there are many people with a P7 addiction.

[Rodney King]

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