I maintain that these men were forced to defend their village by the UCK while the normal population was no where near. It is a fact that the UCK dead were removed and only the dead from Racak were left. A fact. You only rely on the falsified OSCE reports and a flawed pathologist who never conducted a proper investigation but refuse to listen to another point of view from a Hum worrier as Vooch puts it.
Hoplite I have not change my position one bit since I started on FR in regards to RACAK. A lot of what I have said is slowly coming to light and I believe you have a problem with acknowledging that I have made some points.
I have a friend, a former OSCE KVM who told me about altered field reports that OSCE were falsifying. I have posted this way before the news media ever printed it. I know the name of the UCK commander whose men stopped one of the two OSCE KVM patrol. As a matter of fact I've sat in this devils office and looked him in the eyes personally for obvious reasons. This individual is still there.
The UCK tried to orchestrate a similar situation in a LDK SUPPORTING village not far from Racak some months prior and it was this same UCK commander who set that one up. You won't find that tidbit in any OSCE report. The villagers were ordered by this UCK commander to remain in this village with a promise that the UCK would defend it. Serbs come, no UCK and a very quick evacuation with some limited fighting. A lot of distrust with this UCK commander by the LDK supporting villagers and trust me word travels much faster than a Serbian tank in Kosovo. Attempts on the lives of Kosovo Albanians from UCK goon squads have taken place because of the the rift between the LDK and UCK at Racak. A very dangerous rift.
So Dear Hoplite I found it curious that the population from this LDK village managed to depart very quickly and those in Racak that could hear the Serbian Armor miles away had a problem doing this. So don't patronize me in regards to what I know and believe and especially don't paint me with the pro Milosivic brush you should know better. I dare you to quote any of my posts that show I support Milosivic. I am not doing this to defend him but to simply add to the TRUTH about a lot of civilians who were forced to become very dead stage props by the UCK to impress the world stage .
I was there my friend and have a better idea of what reality in kosovo is. Buying into the Slobo revisionism indeed!
You first postulated that the KLA lured the Serbs into Racak in order to goad them into committing an atrocity, and since you stated the locals were LDK supporters, that made sense.
In this thread, however, you're supporting the position that the men in the ditch were moved or manipulated post mortem by the KLA, implying that they were something other than unarmed civilians murdered in vengeance by the Serbs - and no, you cannot simply write off any evidence as being biased as Milosevic's defenders would like to do ("falsified" & "flawed"). Ultimately, you are positioning yourself as a source of information on the matter, but in doing so, you had better be able to corroborate your version of events with other's observations or you will wind up isolating yourself from any possibility of being credible, and attacking the Forensics report or the OSCE without plausible alternatives isn't a way to skip around the issue.
There were some 1.8 million Kosovar Albanians in Kosovo during this time, yet you seem to be proposing that there is no such thing as a non-KLA or non-combatant victim of the Serbs from your post: They weren't just farmers, right? Simple farmers don't have AK-47s with which to defend themselves per your scenario, unless the KLA was arming the LDK as well as getting them bumped off - but the logical flaws inherent in this scenario render it highly unlikely.
If you don't want to be tarred with the brush, don't stand on that particular canvas, Wraith - the Serbs are good for the Racak massacre, and no amount of revisionism or sophistry is going to change the matter - not from Milosevic, not from his supporters, and yes, not from you either. Stick to coloring within the lines bounding the truth and the possible. Without new evidence which allows for the impeachment of Ranta's work, Ranta's work stands.
SKS Snajperi (or whatever he's going to call himself next) was there (Bosnia) as well, but his information isn't worth the server space it's wasting - just a note of caution.