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Facing the gay gestapo
The Advocate ^ | 4/16/02 | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 04/15/2002 7:35:35 AM PDT by mondonico

Facing the gay gestapo

By Tammy Bruce

From The Advocate (via FrontPageMag.com), April 16, 2002

I thought I knew what it was like to be on the outside. Most of us gay and lesbian people think we do. After all, we live our lives, out or not, knowing we are on the fringes of society. As a very out feminist gay woman, former leader in the National Organization for Women, I thought I knew what it was like to be at odds with the Establishment. Boy, was I wrong!

You see, it wasn’t until I came out as a dissenter against certain policies of the left-wing political establishment that I learned what it is like to be on the “wrong side” of an issue. These days to be a dissenter from inside the Left means to be isolated, questioned, and distrusted by our own. We know the terms: “self-loathing,” “right-wing shill,” with the cruelest cut meant to be “conservative.”

In my book, The New Thought Police, I challenge the hypocrisy in the feminist and gay establishment on issues of freedom of expression and liberty. When it was released I came face-to-face with the “accusation” of being—gasp!—a conservative. As soon as the book hit the shelves a friend and current leader in NOW, Carol (a pseudonym), called me at home. “What happened to you?” she cried, truly hurt by what she thought was my embrace of conservatism. “I knew talk radio would ruin you!” she proclaimed, referring to my being a radio talk-show host and revealing the fear the Left has of unbridled discussion of the issues. She hadn’t read my book, but even the fact that I had the gall to publicly announce the emperor was stark naked was, for her, indeed a betrayal.

Carol’s reaction was not unique, and that was especially troubling. I spent almost a decade in the trenches working on civil rights issues for women and gays. I’m the same pro-choice feminist I always was. So why were some who knew me so ready to presume I had been abducted by aliens and transformed into the dreaded conservative?

To label someone conservative in our community is meant to cross a line through that person’s name—to associate us with religious fanatics and fundamentalists. Ironically, in all my work I have found that the genuine conservative, who champions the traditional American value of individual liberty, is upholding the values that make it possible for everyone, especially gays and lesbians, to live our lives as we choose.

I am a lesbian, I am pro-choice, and I am a gun owner. Carol is pro-choice, straight (well, none of us is perfect!), and an ardent gun-control advocate. The heart of our conversation revolved around the fact that individual liberty doesn’t necessarily mean being different from everyone else nor marching in lockstep—it means being free to make the choices that best suit us. We knew we would always disagree on certain issues, but this time it was different for her.

"You voted for Reagan!” is how Carol articulated that last straw, that thing that exposed my supposed dangerous conservative underbelly. I told Carol that the same principles that compel me to be pro-choice also oblige me to vote my conscience. Yes, I voted for Reagan in 1984. I also voted for Michael Dukakis in 1988 and (now to my dismay) Bill Clinton. Twice. In 2000, I voted for George W. Bush (with pride). What does all that make me? I hope a thoughtful person.

Funny, isn’t it? The values that allow us to be us—belief in personal liberty and freedom of expression (think Dr. Laura)—are now labeled as conservative ideals by the left-wing establishment. I support Dr. Laura because she has the right to say whatever she pleases, without having to face a gay gestapo for using an unauthorized word to describe us.

I told Carol that if she wants to call me a conservative, fine. But I asked that she should be aware of what principles she and the establishment are throwing into that bucket. In truth, if those who defend liberty are to be defined as conservative in today’s political climate, then I’m proud to wear that label—as proud as I am of “feminist,” “gay,” and “pro-choice.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gay; groupthink; homosexualagenda; intolerance; left; thoughtpolice
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1 posted on 04/15/2002 7:35:35 AM PDT by mondonico
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To: mondonico
I doubt the media will declare this courageous woman a hero as they have done with David Brock. But, there's no left wing bias in the media, right?
2 posted on 04/15/2002 7:39:09 AM PDT by 07055
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To: mondonico
I wonder where she stands on gay adoption and promotion in the schools. If she is not in favor of those I could live with GWB appointing her to something. I just don't want the federal government forcing me to be pro-gay. Or, more, my kid.
3 posted on 04/15/2002 7:46:46 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: mondonico; gophack
I suspect that Tammy's days holding her other leftwing views are numbered too.

Once you begin to accept that the left is built from emotion-driven hollow lies and halftruths, all the other liberal ideas begin to crumble too.

You can't be a little bit liberal. It's a package deal. The lies and shallowness of it all will eventually sink in. I predict that within about 10 years Tammy will be an outspoken, heterosexual, conservative Christian.

5 posted on 04/15/2002 7:58:05 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: mondonico
"Arbeit Macht Frei"
6 posted on 04/15/2002 8:11:59 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: mondonico;07055;RAT Patrol;AmriGandu;ElkGroveDan
SUNDAY Q&A: A lesbian takes on the 'thought police'

Geoff Metcalf interviews author, feminist Tammy Bruce

"Editor's note: In a compelling talk-radio interview with WorldNetDaily's Geoff Metcalf, author, former Los Angeles National Organization for Women president and self-proclaimed homosexual Tammy Bruce talks about the value of liberty in a country controlled by "the left-wing power elite." Bruce spoke openly about liberals' influence on the media and American pop culture, criticizing the left's hypocritical demand for tolerance..."


7 posted on 04/15/2002 8:15:23 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: mondonico
Tammy's really straight. She just doesn't know it yet.
8 posted on 04/15/2002 8:17:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: mondonico
Freedom to make 'different' choices is at the heart of America. Also, the freedom to disagree.

I've read her book. I disagree with much she says. But she is absolutely right that the Left primarily wants to SILENCE the conservatives. That's why they attack so viciously. She isn't going to let them silence her. That's good.

9 posted on 04/15/2002 8:20:45 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: ElkGroveDan
I was thinking the same thing.
10 posted on 04/15/2002 8:25:55 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: ethical; Clint N. Suhks; erizona; GrandMoM; Buffalo Bob; libertylass; Republic;Khepera; ArGee...
Ping
11 posted on 04/15/2002 8:54:24 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: mondonico
Very interesting.
12 posted on 04/15/2002 8:55:59 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: mondonico
I am a lesbian, I am pro-choise, and I am a gun owner.
An armed feminist. Now that will give you a shiver.
13 posted on 04/15/2002 9:16:12 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: mondonico;khepera
To label someone conservative in our community is meant to cross a line through that person’s name—to associate us with religious fanatics and fundamentalists. Ironically, in all my work I have found that the genuine conservative, who champions the traditional American value of individual liberty, is upholding the values that make it possible for everyone, especially gays and lesbians, to live our lives as we choose.

The author needs a course in conservatism... we think homosexuals don't belong in a normal society. She is thinking libertarians (fence sitters), who want a feel good society of anarchy and socialism… I am a conservative and darn proud of it! My God is the ruler of all creation and I answer only to Him.

14 posted on 04/15/2002 9:27:36 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: WaterDragon
good point...
15 posted on 04/15/2002 9:28:32 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: mondonico
You have to face the gay gestapo, I sure as hell wouldnt turn my back to them.
16 posted on 04/15/2002 9:33:43 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: WaterDragon
But she is absolutely right that the Left primarily wants to SILENCE the conservatives. That's why they attack so viciously.

The Left knows that when the light of open debate and cordial discourse on all topics ensues, their theories crumble and they are left with using name games to win: mean-spirited, homophobe, woman-hater, anti-choice, etc. They can't discuss ideas on the merits: they always look at motives first. If there are no ill-motives, they make them up (like everyone who isn't pro-choice wants women to be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen).

18 posted on 04/15/2002 9:50:09 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Pompah
When I worked for a Legislator in southern California, we had an active "lavender" section of our district. I found that many homosexuals were gun owners. I think that it's important to work with different constituencies on the issues we agree on in order to accomplish our agenda. The liberals do it all the time -- they build coalitions of seemingly disparate groups in order to advance a common initiative. It's time conservatives do the same thing.

I, like most of my friends here on FR, do not condone homosexuality and I do believe it is a grave sin. However, I don't hate homosexuals. As Christians, we can't, they are still children of God.

19 posted on 04/15/2002 9:54:00 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: wwjdn
"Conservatism" generally implies a belief in limited government and a resistance to rapid change, not religious evangelism or belief in theocracy. To be sure, it's perfectly possible to be evangelical and conservative, in fact the two are positive correlated in the US, and, generally, in the west generally, but they do not have the same meaning.
20 posted on 04/15/2002 11:25:05 AM PDT by delphine
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