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Youngest Boys And Girls Prefer Different Instruments
UniSci. ^ | 4/15/02 | Betty Repacholi Joel Schwarz

Posted on 04/15/2002 6:13:27 AM PDT by LarryLied

The beat begins early in life when it comes to children's choice of instruments: Boys favor drums and horns, girls flutes and violins.

Ask children what musical instruments they would like to play and boys invariably will pick the trumpet, drums or saxophone, while girls will tend to favor the violin, clarinet or flute.

These gender-based choices seem to be so embedded that researchers have now shown that children as young as 5 exhibit stereotypical preferences when it comes to musical instruments.

Reporting in the current issue of the journal Sex Roles, University of Washington researcher Betty Repacholi said these gender-based preferences are considerably more fixed among boys than they are in girls. Even when some of the children in the study were exposed to an intervention, boys were far more resistant to changing their gender-based choices.

"Girls become more flexible as they get older, but boys mostly pick masculine instruments. They just cannot pick a feminine instrument. It is so hard for them that it just astounds me," she said.

How these stereotypes develop is unknown. It could be based on the size or shape of an instrument or the sound it makes, Repacholi said.

"What makes a flute a feminine instrument -- its high-pitched sound and delicate look? And is a trumpet masculine because it sounds deeper and louder? Making gender-based choices can restrict what children, all people, do in life."

Repacholi, a research associate with the UW's Center for Mind, Brain & Learning, and co-author Samantha Pickering, now a doctoral student at the University of Sydney in Australia, knew that in the 1970s childhood instrument preferences had been noted among third and fourth graders.

After nearly three decades of increasingly equal opportunities for women in many countries, the researchers wondered if these gender-based stereotypes still existed, if they occurred in younger children and if they could be modified.

To explore these questions, the researchers recruited more than 600 kindergarten and fourth-grade Australian school children to participate in two studies. Both studies used eight instruments that adults in the United States, England and Australia had previously classified by gender -- flute, violin, clarinet and cello as feminine and drums, saxophone, trumpet and trombone as masculine.

In the first study, the researchers made videotapes of eight male and eight female high school students playing one of the eight instruments. The elementary school children were randomly put into three groups and shown three-minute videos of the high school instrumentalists playing the same piece of music.

In the stereotype group, the children saw males playing the masculine instruments and females playing the feminine ones. Children in a counter-stereotype group saw males playing the feminine instruments and females playing the masculine instruments. The third, or control, group viewed a video of the music but without seeing the soloists. Instead, the instruments were displayed against a plain background.

Repacholi and Pickering found that the kindergartners and fourth graders in the counter-stereotype groups were less likely to pick a gender-based instrument than the children in the other two groups.

"The really young children, those in kindergarten, may have thought that these stereotypes were rules, not social conventions," said Repacholi. "But they were willing to change their beliefs when shown counter examples."

The researchers also found that boys were less influenced by exposure to the counter-stereotype examples, a not-unexpected finding since boys experience stronger social pressure to engage in gender-stereotyped activities than do girls, according to Repacholi. Girls, meanwhile, were more flexible. About 70 percent of the fourth-grade girls in the counter-stereotype group picked masculine instruments.

"This is consistent with what we know," said Repacholi. "Girls experience less pressure and are allowed to be tomboys. They see that males have more power and status in our society and, with increasing age, girls start to adopt more masculine attributes."

This was illustrated in the control group, where only 27 percent of the kindergarten girls selected a masculine instrument, but 50 percent of the girls in the fourth grade did so.

"At the same time, there is more pressure on boys to be masculine. There can be extreme pressure, particularly from their peers. A boy does not want to do anything that appears to be feminine," she said.

In the second study, the researchers simplified their presentations by replacing the videotapes with black-and-white drawings. The drawings depicted the eight instruments as being played by elementary school-age children. Before being asked to pick the instrument they would like to play, there was a discussion about each of the instruments so the children could distinguish among them.

The findings in the second study were not only consistent with those in the initial study, but also demonstrated that even a simple presentation -- such as a drawing that could be found in a children's picture book -- could be used to change children's musical instrument preferences, said Repacholi.

"These kinds of choices and stereotypes can affect what you learn and what you do later in life," she said. "We know these stereotypes affect all kinds of leisure activities, the sports people play and career choices. Even at age 5 children believe doctors are males and nurses are female. When it comes to music, a little boy may be the next Yo-Yo Ma but is not encouraged to play the cello. So he picks the drums, is terrible, and winds up not playing any musical instrument. Or a girl who wants to play the trombone is advised not to and that stops her from pursuing a career playing that instrument.

"Our studies show these stereotypes can be modified. But I would emphasize that the changes we showed are short-term. Three-minute videos or drawings are not going to create permanent change. We also wouldn't advocate using counter-stereotypes by themselves because we would simply be creating new stereotypes. We need to present both males and females playing a full range of instruments to show that anyone can play them. Gender should not be relevant," she said.



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1 posted on 04/15/2002 6:13:27 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Gender should not be relevant," she said.

Ahhh, the researcher's true motive is revealed. Looks suspiciously like a bunch of university lefties trying to find more ways to feminize little boys. Gender is relevant, and the more we stop denying the differences between boys and girls the better off our society will be.

2 posted on 04/15/2002 6:26:10 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: LarryLied
The researchers also found that boys were less influenced by exposure to the counter-stereotype examples, a not-unexpected finding since boys experience stronger social pressure to engage in gender-stereotyped activities than do girls, according to Repacholi. Girls, meanwhile, were more flexible. About 70 percent of the fourth-grade girls in the counter-stereotype group picked masculine instruments.

"This is consistent with what we know," said Repacholi. "Girls experience less pressure and are allowed to be tomboys. They see that males have more power and status in our society and, with increasing age, girls start to adopt more masculine attributes."

As someone who was not too long ago a little girl, I think this is much more consistent with girls' tendency to want to 'follow the herd.' If they're shown girls playing the trombone, then 70% will choose the trombone. If they're shown girls playing the flute, 70% will choose the flute. It's just as much a 'peer pressure' thing as the social conventions themselves.

That said, this is the silliest study yet dreamed up. Who cares if little girls want to play the violin? Who cares if little boys want to play the drums? Why try to force them to change? The only problem I ever saw as a band nerd in junior high was that some guys who wanted to play the flute got teased by some of the other guys. I thought it was sort of sad. Then again, all four of the boys who played flute in junior high went on to be cheerleaders in high school and came out of the closet in college (which was hysterical--they're like, "I have a confession to make...I'm gay." We yawned and said "Yeah...and?" It just wasn't a surprise.).

3 posted on 04/15/2002 6:28:16 AM PDT by LibertyGirl77
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To: LarryLied; one_particular_harbour; Oneidam
Boys And Girls Prefer Different Instruments

Oy vey.

4 posted on 04/15/2002 6:31:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Nope..aint gonna say..you can't make me..I am on my best behavior....BEST.
5 posted on 04/15/2002 6:33:08 AM PDT by Neets
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To: OneidaM
So you aren't going to mention that while girls might like the flute, that boys prefer to bang on the drum?
6 posted on 04/15/2002 6:36:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: LarryLied
My 13 y/o is an excellent flute player and she is just starting drum lessons.

Perhaps the authors ought to realize that everybody is an individual and they should stop trying to categorize all people by sex, race, religion, etc. Sheesh!

7 posted on 04/15/2002 6:36:19 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: LarryLied
BTTT
8 posted on 04/15/2002 6:37:31 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Lazamataz
No I was not~!~~~
10 posted on 04/15/2002 6:43:08 AM PDT by Neets
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To: OneidaM
And so you also were not going to mention that while most girls like the flute, and while most boys like banging on the drum, about 10% of boys like the flute and 10% of girls like banging the drum?
11 posted on 04/15/2002 6:46:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Scruffdog; Oneidam
Interesting, I was a drummer, my oldest son was a drummer and my youngest son was a drummer......youngest daughter played the flute!

See Oneida???

I am a drum-banger myself.....

13 posted on 04/15/2002 6:47:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
No I was not ~~!~~ You can try..but I JUST won't do it.
14 posted on 04/15/2002 6:47:27 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Lazamataz; Inge_cav
Of course it's ONLY logical that boys like to bang on the drums, and girls like to ummm play the flute and the violin....It's Logical...it's Logical I tell ya...and I am not saying ANOTHER word.
15 posted on 04/15/2002 6:49:53 AM PDT by Neets
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To: OneidaM
bang bang bang bangittybangitty bang bang bang bang bangbang bangbang
16 posted on 04/15/2002 6:49:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: LarryLied
The Ocham's razor explanation for all this would be that there are genetic differences between boys and girls which manifest in their personalities regardless of environment. Proving that as the case would, of course, be counter to the result they hoped to derive from this "scientific study", so it needs to be discarded.
17 posted on 04/15/2002 6:50:30 AM PDT by Lonely NY Conservative
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To: OneidaM
Of course it's ONLY logical that boys like to bang on the drums, and girls like to ummm play the flute and the violin....It's Logical...it's Logical I tell ya...and I am not saying ANOTHER word.

It's more than logical, it is NATURE.

18 posted on 04/15/2002 6:50:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: LarryLied
...So he picks the drums, is terrible, and winds up not playing any musical instrument...

Of course, accoustic guitar, electric guitar, electric bass guitar, piano, or electronic keyboard weren't available choices. And I don't play drums, but I suspect that learning drums in a school band just isn't the same as learning drums in a rock band, and rock-band drums isn't usually an available choice.

I'd think the kid would be a lot more likely to play a musical instrument if they could choose from the popular ones.

19 posted on 04/15/2002 6:54:52 AM PDT by Flashlight
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To: Lazamataz; Orual; aculeus; MozartLover
Not gonna do it .... Wouldn't be prudent.
20 posted on 04/15/2002 6:58:37 AM PDT by dighton
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