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WTNH TV ^ | 4/11/02 | puppage

Posted on 04/11/2002 9:41:06 AM PDT by Puppage

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To: stanz
So what are you really against here? Please enlighten the board.

Is it one-handed driving? Would you like to ban driving with your arm out the window? Deny licences to amputees or folks with a broken arm? Criminalize radio station and CD changes while the vehicle is moving?

Could it be talking while driving makes you feel unsafe? Perhaps the state should protect you by mandating silence while in the car, yes? A noise-free zone, much like a smoke-free zone? You could say it's for the children, you know.

Maybe you're just against people not paying attention to the task at hand. Ban scenic drives! Ban looking at your passenger! Ban eating! Ban drinking! Ban smoking! Heck, you're on a public road, right? Why can't the state mandate EVERYTHING you do while operating your vehicle everywhere but in your own driveway!

You can still drive and talk on a cell phone (heck, Batman did it). Just like you can drive with one hand and while chatting with your passenger. What is needed is common sense. Good luck forcing people under pain of law to do that, though.

41 posted on 04/11/2002 12:56:18 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
If you have read every post of mine, then I don't need to enlighten the board any further. I'll say it plainly. I think driving with a hand-held cell phone ought to be illegal.

What about that don't you understand?

42 posted on 04/11/2002 1:12:18 PM PDT by stanz
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To: stanz
I guess everthing you "feel" is correct & just? My argument is ...what's next? Where does it stop? Nice of you NOT to address any of my questions. Thanks for playing. I accept your surrender. Wait...is surrender potty mouthed?
43 posted on 04/11/2002 1:16:37 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
How the hell should I know what's next?

I have a question...are you at home right now?

I ask because I'm not. As a matter of fact, I'm at work. I voted in the poll and responded on FR just like everyone else and gave you my feelings on hand-held cell phones. I'm not Houdini and I can't foresee what event will arise next. Frankly, I think I have spent enough time explaining my position. Why don't you badger one of the other posters? I have not surrendered my opinion, but I have lost my patience with you.

44 posted on 04/11/2002 1:24:43 PM PDT by stanz
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To: stanz
Ooo, Mr. Potty Mouth lives. What's next is, yet another stupid law, whatever that might be. Besides, you lost your patience because you couldn't prove your point, nor answer my rebuttal.
45 posted on 04/11/2002 1:28:35 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: stanz
BTW...I'm at work, like yourself.
46 posted on 04/11/2002 1:29:02 PM PDT by Puppage
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To: stanz
The right to hold a hand-held cell phone while driving often results in accidental death and destruction when practiced by the wrong people. I almost got killed right on my block by a woman tearing around a corner while yakking on a cell phone and not watching the light. She could have either worn a headset or set it up on speaker-phone which is another alternative. That would have given her both hands to keep on the wheel.

How would both hands on the wheel have made a difference?
You never said she had trouble turning the corner, but wasn't watching the light cause she was busy yapping.
She could have been yapping to another person in the car for that matter.

47 posted on 04/11/2002 4:14:15 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: stanz
If it means saving a life, then it DOES make me feel good.

In that case you could outlaw automobiles completely and save far more lives, which should therefore make you feel REALLY good.

48 posted on 04/11/2002 4:18:58 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Psalm 73
You can't drive while sucking down a bottle of whiskey, either, but that doesn't mean we live in a Police state.

Actually, it pretty much does.

Why should what you do in your own car be anyone else's buisness if you are not causing accidents or hurting anyone??

The police and the state do not own the public roads like they are the government's personal private property or something. The roads are public right of ways. Just because the state paved 'em doesn't mean they OWN them.

49 posted on 04/11/2002 4:25:04 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Psalm 73
You have a Constitutional right to carry a firearm, where does it say you have a right to chat with your hairdresser while cutting me off in traffic?

Do you actually believe that we have the right to carry a firearm SOLELY because someone took the time to write it down??? Got news for you. The right to bear arms and the right to drive and the right to talk on a cell phone all eminate from the same source. One is no more or less a right than the others.

50 posted on 04/11/2002 4:30:44 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Coop
Talking on a cell phone is my right? Or is driving my right?

Both.

51 posted on 04/11/2002 4:34:47 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock
You can't drive while sucking down a bottle of whiskey, either, but that doesn't mean we live in a Police state.

"Actually, it pretty much does."

OK, here's where you libertarians have breached sanity. I lost a sister to a drunk driver, but you think that guy shouldn't have been stopped until AFTER he killed my sister?
Grow up, the rest of society doesn't exist to satisfy your every whim. (Most children learn this when they finally reach adulthood.)

52 posted on 04/12/2002 4:15:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: southern rock
"The right to bear arms and the right to drive and the right to talk on a cell phone all eminate from the same source. One is no more or less a right than the others."

Wow, a man after a liberal judges own heart. The constitiution guarantees us a right to talk on a cell phone while driving a car?
Must be right after the part that says we have a right to kill our babies, huh?
(Been drinking Harry Browne Kool-aid again)?

53 posted on 04/12/2002 4:21:46 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Psalm 73
I'm sorry you've had so misfortune in your life. I have, too but I don't post my resume of misery here.With that said, I don't believe we should curtail our liberties because of your anecdotal evidence, or personal experience with sorrow.
54 posted on 04/12/2002 5:16:34 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
"I don't post my resume of misery here"

Greenwich - it figures.
You're either too dense or too self-absorbed to understand the point I'm trying to make.
Like trying to explain something to my cats.
Someday, you're gonna be busy talking on your phone and cut-off the wrong person...

55 posted on 04/12/2002 7:05:44 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Psalm 73
Could be.....and YOU could be hit by a bus SOMEDAY while crossing the street. BAN BUSES NOW!!!! Why, (and perhaps you might even answer this question...for the 3rd time) are you so willing to give up your rights, your liberties so easily? Because of what's happened in your life? If tripping on your shoelaces while walking down the stairs results in death, do we ban that, too?

You CANNOT legislate common sense.

56 posted on 04/12/2002 7:14:06 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage
I believe that drivers busy cradling a phone and chatting are not devoting their full attention to driving. While simply chatting diverts one's attention, when coupled with using one's hands for other than driving it increases the chance of an accident. If you must chat, simply get a hands-free set of some sort. And, personally, I think it should be illegal to chat on a cell phone and drive in the left lane of an interstate ...
57 posted on 04/12/2002 7:17:15 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
And your distracted by passengers in your car, kids in your car,eating while driving, perhaps we need to ban passengers in vehicles altogether? If it saves just one person......
58 posted on 04/12/2002 7:21:18 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Junior
I think it should be illegal eat you big mac while driving and the should ban all drive thrus. The danger of that special sauce dripping on your pants and you cleaning it up before it stains will deter you from your full attention on the road.

We should ban children under the age of 4 from cars. That constant screaming and the attention they demand cause mothers and fathers less than 100% of thier attention to the road.

People shut up!!!! You all a bunch of whiners. I would love to rip a big fart in a crowded restraunt and then go out and smoke.

59 posted on 04/12/2002 7:23:30 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: Puppage
"are you so willing to give up your rights, your liberties"

Irrational. Driving like an idiot is NOT a God-given right or a Constitutional right.
Although, lucky for you, talking like one is...

60 posted on 04/12/2002 7:32:32 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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