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Church of Nativity Damaged and a Monastery Is Scorched
New York Times ^ | 4/09/02 | DAVID ROHDE

Posted on 04/08/2002 11:15:16 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: GeronL
places are not holy. buildings are not holy.

I made the same mistake yesterday, I was surprised at how many people corrected me. It's just something non-Christians aren't likely to know about.

21 posted on 04/09/2002 1:12:15 AM PDT by xm177e2
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To: kattracks
Like the Buddas in Afghanistan, this church has historical significance. So shut of the water, power, and phone. And institute a siege, old style, starve them out.
22 posted on 04/09/2002 5:40:38 AM PDT by Eagle74
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To: connectthedots; kattracks
kattracks

With a bit of trepedition and putting on my flame resistant suit, as an individual Christian, the Church of the Nativity is just a building. While it may have some possible historic meaning, its survival has absolutely no significance to the Body of Christ, i.e. the speading of the Gospel and the fellowship of believers.

The Church is not a building.

Absolutely!

A "priest inside the church," [Held hostage, that is!] quoted by Reuters, said: "Blah Blah Blah Blah ... carried out an armed attack on the Nativity Church ..... set fire to the parish building in front of the basilica."

Which couple of sentences demonstrate with absolute clarity and unambiguity the abject intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the reuters "reporters" and "editors" -- who went on to use such language as:

..... the 'palestinian' gunmen to surrender and release priests that "Israeli officials describe as" hostages.

And suggested without comment that:

Church officials have said the priests are "not hostages" and "have chosen to remain" in the sanctuary.

This despite that:

"Roughly 200 'palestinians'" [Who shot their way in!] are "believed" to have "taken shelter" in the church, "together with" 4 nuns and 40 Franciscan monks.

When we Civilized Peoples have finished dealing with and exterminating the 'palestinians' and the rest of the world's Hesporophobic terrorist savages, we should go after their allies, the obscene lickspittle advocates who comprise the world's media -- and string every last one of the lying bastards up in Manger Square!

23 posted on 04/09/2002 6:08:46 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: connectthedots
Our flag is just a flag then too.
24 posted on 04/09/2002 6:10:55 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: kattracks
For those who have never been there, its not a very nice church.
Most of the inside has been blackened by the constant burning of incense and candles.
I don't think a little more soot is going to hurt much more.
25 posted on 04/09/2002 8:32:29 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: GeronL
places are not holy.

Exodus 3:5 Then He said, "Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand [is] holy ground."

26 posted on 04/09/2002 8:39:53 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: xm177e2
It's just something non-Christians aren't likely to know about.

See #26

27 posted on 04/09/2002 8:42:46 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: GeronL
They didn't have to stay. They didn't have to do phone interviews defending the Palestinians.

Aren't most of these monks and priests Palestinian themselves? Of course they would defend their blood brothers, regardless of their actions. Witness the barbaric feuds between Arab states...but let an outsider interfere and they stand together so tightly you can't stick a paper clip between them. "Blood is thicker than water..."

Also, in several phone interviews a priest (Palestinian) inside the church said something to the effect of, "We heard a loud noise and they (the terrorists inside) told me the Israelis were attacking the church." So apparently the clergy inside are not exactly eyewitnesses to the claims of the Palestinians, but are merely echoing what their brethren tell them is going on. Thus, even the accounts of the priests on the inside are not entirely credible, in my view. Every last one of them interviewed by phone was Palestinian and indicate that their stories are relays of what the gunmen told them occurred.

28 posted on 04/09/2002 8:45:40 AM PDT by shezza
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To: Romulus
Okay, I guess some Christians disagree on some theological points...
29 posted on 04/09/2002 9:58:16 AM PDT by xm177e2
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To: Romulus
"[W]hy a man should accept a Creator who was a carpenter, and then worry about holy water, why he should accept a local Protestant tradition that God was born in some particular place ... and then say it is incredible that a blessing should linger on the bones of a saint, why he should accept the first and most stupendous part of the story of Heaven on Earth, and then furiously deny a few small but obvious deductions from it ... I can only attribute it to Superstition." [G.K. Chesterton, in The Thing: Why I Am a Catholic]
30 posted on 04/09/2002 11:23:04 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: GeronL
And what dumb chrsitian would allow terrorists to take sanctuary in their church?

Unarmed friars with rifles, in the hands of terrorists, pointed at their heads.

31 posted on 04/09/2002 11:26:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: Mike Fieschko
Excellent; thanks.
32 posted on 04/09/2002 11:43:08 AM PDT by Romulus
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