Live Thread: President Bush and Prime Minister Blair Press Conference, Noon EST, 4/6/02

self | Saturday, April 6, 2002 | Kristinn

[kristinn]

Live from Crawford, Texas, it's the George and Tony show.

Will George slap Bill and Yasser around again like he did last night? Will Tony come off as George's toy poodle? Will the press be their usual boorish selves ? Is Helen Thomas there ?

The answer to these and other questions will be answered at Noon eastern time.

[ohioWfan]

OH dear!! The President has lost the votes of these loyal supporters, who campaigned for him, sweat drops of blood on his behalf, and would have been loyal to the end........ if he only agreed with every detail of their miniscule, myopic worldview.

Unfortunately for them and their claims, we have record of his 'losing their support' on scores of issues since January 20, 2001. These guys are mad at the world, and George W. Bush is their whipping boy.

As to the issue at hand, the President was very strong in this Press Conference, and Blair was very supportive of him. I would not want to be in the shoes of either Hussein or Arafat at this moment in time. Their days are numbered.

[Buckeroo]

I have a question for you, POM-POM WAVING PRO GOVERNMENT TICK, why do you enjoy America fighting all these far-off wars that are not declared?

[MoscowMike]

Howdy Buckaroo

You do me injustice, sir, by assigning unclean motives to my view on saddam hussein in particular and the war on terror in general. You malign me in ingnorance with a gratuitous assertion that I seek vengance.

And you are wrong to do so, and wrong in substance.

Vengance is the province of the Lord.

The government of the United States of America is charged first and foremost with protecting the American People.

Our govenrnment was recently run by an individual devoid of character, deeply imbued with the intellectually and morally vapid dysfunction of liberal, collectivist tripe that has infected our government bureaucracies, institutions of higher learning, and entertainment communities ever since the 1930's.

President clinton and albert gore reinvented our government to reflect their poisonous leftist religion, they destroyed the ability of numerous agencies to protect the American People, most notably the INS and CIA. They displayed craven cowardice to al qaida in Somalia, and opened the door wide to terror.

The result was thousands of American citizens burned and crushed to death in the most heinous acts of mass murder on American soil in history.

The results of liberalism are inarguable, lost in a morass of relativistic dysfunction, it is inoperable as a philosphical approach to just governance.

That President Bush seeks to mitigate the horrific human suffering caused by liberalism's common cause with tyrranical mass murderers is simply the appropriate remedy and a faithful execution of the absolute mandate that our government protect its citizens from further acts of horror.

Vengance has nothing to do with it.

[Mulder]

The President has lost the votes of these loyal supporters, who campaigned for him, sweat drops of blood on his behalf, and would have been loyal to the end....

My loyalty lies with no man or no political party.

My loyalty is to the United States Constitution and the ideals put forth in the Declaration of Independence.

On a side note, your arrogrant attitude is similar to that of the "GOP establishment" in 1992 who thought that conservatives would support a liberal GOP nominee because "there was no alternative". He wound up with an abysmal 38% of the vote.

[ohioWfan]

When you get past the childish name calling, we'll talk.

[Buckeroo]

So why is America the world cop? Why don't we see the EU or Russia or China or ANYONE in the Middle-East? Because our government is saving you? I want to explore your opin upon this subject because, frankly, you have taken world opinion as the gospel of life.

[Buckeroo]

You are in LA-LA Land. Goto the Bushie threads that suck bandwidth with beautiful pictures of the president and his wife. The majesty is awesome!

[varon]

.....if we go after Iraq it will be the first time our country has been the aggressor in a military action.

Hmmmmm, just exactly then were our actions in Panama, Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo/Serbia ? I just can't recall any of those countries attacking us. Did I doze through these historic events?

[section9]

Well said, Mike!

Some people think that we can just withdraw to our borders and that will solve all of our problems. That leaves the strategic initiative with our enemies. It would only be a matter of time before we lose a city to an atomic attack.

Thankfully, the American people appear to understand that, even if some folks on this board do not.

My take on the conference: Bush and Blair have a disagreement on the methods to be used against Saddam. Bush was out front on the need to "remove" Saddam from power. "All options are on the table". Blair, having been briefed by CIA, understands that something must be done as soon as possible, but he has a problem with Labour's backbench (the Party is filled to the gills with ex-CND types who hated Reagan and hate Bush).

Arafat is small potatoes. Bush has made it clear to Tony that nothing Arafat does will deter him from marching on Baghdad.

The reason for the conflict? Bush gave the game away when he spoke of terrorists having the ability to tap the vast powers and resources of states for WMD. That's code for saying: "Saddam, we know you've been fooling around with Al-Qaeda. That was a stupid thing to do. Now you have to be removed."

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Buckeroo]

" My loyalty is to the United States Constitution and the ideals put forth in the Declaration of Independence. " -- Mulder, as a remark towards ohioWfan

OMG! You used the evil "C" word, Constitution. This will not win friends or influence folks.

[ohioWfan]

My loyalty lies with truth and justice, as well as the Constitution. My loyalty lies with honesty, integrity, and obedience to God's word. My loyalty lies with the God of Creation, and His Son, Jesus Christ, who loved us enough to die on a cross for our sins.

I am not arrogant. I am just sick of reading how people claim to have supported Bush as a candidate, but started bashing him the moment he did anything they didn't personally like. I am sick of reading hateful, hostile attacks of a man who, out of strong principles and discipline is beginning to move this country back to the right, away from the horrors of what was done during the corrupt, leftist Xlinton administration. I am sick of one-issue people who refuse to see the vast moves toward righteousness made in the past year, because of the strength and principled positions of the President. I am sick of the belittling name calling of anyone who respects, supports and prays for the President.

If that doesn't include you, fine. It wasn't meant for you.

[MoscowMike]

Howdy Buckaroo

Can you not deliver a cogent thought without descending to the low level of maligning your humble debating partner?

I think that the answer to what appeared, begging your pardon, to be a rather disorganized and incoherent argument is that we will go wherever the terrorists are and render them unable to harm Americans in the future.

If that means an expedition to Antarctica must be undertaken, fine, map coordinates carry no moral significance. Foreign governments who harbor organizations dedicated to the extermination of innocent women and children simply can not be tolerated. (by non liberals)

To follow your agruemnt would be to bequeathe to our children a world of sudden and horrific death as an instrument for collecting power over people's lives.

In a word, slavery and mass murder as norms in the pursuit of personal power and glory.

Argue in favor of that dark reality all you like, we do not use bullets to win arguments here as do our opponents in the war on terror. I am grateful for an opportunity to expound upon such readily accessible self evident truth.

It is my belief that there is no value in facilitating evil.

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.

I support the war on terror, and in doing so I argue that you should not fall victim to the evil beasts who use terror and mass murder for political gain, the arafats, the bin ladens, the saddam husseins of the world must not be allowed to still your voice.

Are you unable to raise your voice similarly that I may live out my life in peace?

[ohioWfan]

Thank you for so pettily proving my point....... and please stop hiding behind the Constitution to excuse your real motives. You are so very transparent, Buckeroo. You're fooling no one.

[Buckeroo]

You enjoy the Empire of America, as long as you get what what you want. You want strings attached by government directive as long as you take away our natural rights; as long as you take away our freedoms and liberties. You think America belongs to the world and we must pay.

Get a life.

[Mulder]

I am just sick of reading how people claim to have supported Bush as a candidate, but started bashing him the moment he did anything they didn't personally like.

There were always a few people here who didn't like Bush and were critical from day one.

But now there are a lot more people like myself who voted for him, and are starting to realize that he is no conservative. It's not a single issue thing, nor is it based on us holding him to impossible standards, nor is it based on the nitpicking over small compromises. It is a realization based on facts. Just look at the evidence:

Federalized airport security, no guns for pilots, no serious border security, amnesty for some illegals, no vouchers, increased federal spending, CFR bill, breaking campaign promise on CFR bill, more funding for BATF, no investigation of the crimes of the previous administration, etc....

I am sick of reading hateful, hostile attacks of a man who, out of strong principles and discipline is beginning to move this country back to the right, away from the horrors of what was done during the corrupt, leftist Xlinton administration

Yet Bush was strangely silent all during impeachment.....

[rintense]

I am simply amazed at how many people have fallen into the Clinton complacency regarding Iraq! This is NOT the US waging an unconstitutional war. This is the US and GB ENFORCING the the treaty that Saddam Hussein signed to end the Gulf War! Saddam AGREED to it to save his ass. What has changed since he's signed it???? Not one damn thing- except that Clinton completely chose NOT to enforce the treaty.

Clinton's complacency is now the world's problem. And those who are willing to sit back and wait for this jerk in Iraq to launch and attack on Israel, well, you are nothing more than a Clinton apologist- and just as complacent.

[Buckeroo]

You advocate government direction that is out of bounds of our Constitution. You know not what you advocate.

[Brad’s Gramma]

sssshhhhhhhh

[The Great Satan]

I've been saying all along that this is much more serious then most people believe. It is a terribly heavy burden those two men carry, and it's about to get worse.

We are going to remove Saddam Hussein. That is a given. Anybody who thinks that will be a cakewalk is dreaming. 9-11, and the anthrax threats which followed, changed everything.

All this waffle about "preventing Saddam from acquiring WMD" is polite double talk. Saddam has stockpiled massive quantites of anthrax for over a decade. That is a WMD that can be delivered to our cities by hand, by the same kind of sleeper agents used to destroy the WTC and attack DC.

We assumed -- or hoped -- that the threat of nuclear retaliation would prevent Saddam from using his WMD against Israel or its allies in the West. And, indeed, he has been deterred from launching such attack. But he has turned the tables, revenging himself against the United States and fomenting a terrorist uprising against his foes that spans the entire Muslim world. Now, he is playing the deterrent game himself.

The United States and Britain have both recently threatened Saddam with a nuclear response to any non-nuclear WMD attacks against their "forces." More "polite talk." Everyone knows that it is not our "forces" which are at risk, now. It is our cities.

If you want to understand what's really going on -- why, for example, there's not a chance in hell that Sharon and Bush haven't choreographed their war on terror together -- just remember, Bush knows what's really going on, not the press boobs and the talking heads. Clearly, Blair is in the loop, too. In the end, there is only one thing that matters: winning the war against Saddam Hussein.

[Buckeroo]

Why does America have to control this problem? Why doesn't Japan or Australia or Mexico or Tibet or Luxembourg? Why do you advocate a NWO?