Posted on 04/04/2002 8:51:39 AM PST by SkyPilot
No it is not.
They recovered 5 cents on the dollar of loss and purchased a very large chunk of Anaheim. Part of that farm is now the Disneyland parking lot.
Now, notwithstanding that you seem to have projected an element of bigotry and racism into the thread, you're talking.
See the last couple of paragraphs of my post #49.
There is not the slightest doubt that the "DemocRATS" who rounded up the World War Two Japanese stole their money and their property -- and may have been in part motivated to round them up by that intention!
[As there is also not the slightest doubt that the Japanese who served in Europe in the United States Armed Forces served valiantly and were a great credit to themselves, their families and Our Nation! -- But that was not this thread's topic]
Guess that might well give us enough clues to identify you as a foreigner. And not just any foreigner but the descendant of a line of foreigners who fought against my American forebears in or about 1812, 1775-83, 1754, a couple of times earlier than that, and almost innumerable times all the way back to 1613!
We also cannot escape noting that due to the vast influx of illegal aliens from that very same nation, a reservoir of disease was created on the East Coast and by the winter of 1648 a tremendous number of my relatives whose people had lived here thousands of years were effectively murdered.
Following your logic and that of a number of other posters here, it is morally required that I hold you personally accountable for the ancient misdeeds and murders of your entire nation.
Don't be ridiculous!
On that citizenship deal, I think the Ukian people hold to the same standard. They used it, in fact, as a basis for kidnapping American sailers from American ships just prior to the War of 1812. They were so obnoxious with it that it drove our government into the arms of our great ally and friend, Napoleon.
Now, let's get this discussion pointed back in the correct direction. And that is that Americans should not be held accountable for the sins and misdeeds of foreigners, nor should Americans or permanent resident aliens be imprisoned for nothing more than the supposition that one or more of them might "do something".
A final note - even among the kibbei who indicated they would like to return to Japan (but were not allowed to do so until the end of WWII), not a single individual was charged with, tried and convicted of a single disloyal act.
Japanese and Japanese-Americans have a reputation for obeying the law - even to the point of self-destruction. It's a shame that other foreigners seem incapable of matching the achievements of the Issei in that regard.
This is skypilot's statement in comment #1. I assumed by your response in comment 52, you knew that is what we were discussing. Furthermore, it seems that in comment 52, you seem to be taking skypilot's side. Normally I would not have pinged you except you decided to ping me first in comment 52.
True. But the outrage is that some freepers think that because the jap military in WWII abused US soldiers, the it's okay for the US govt. to abuse its japanese citizenry. I don't agree and many other freepers don't agree, but if you check the comments, you will find too many freepers taking the position that the internment was justified by the actions of the jap military. Skypilot, the originator of this thread, in particular seems to think this.
I am, by my choice and by the fulfilment of my life's most passionately pursued ambition, an American whose ancestors ran as far from bloody England as it was possible to go without beginning to go back the other way and who have stood shoulder to shoulder with Americans in every foreign battle in which Our Beloved FRaternal Republic has ever engaged!
The Limeys, by the way, did not bring any serious impediment to Our Shores, they brought Judeo-Christian Civilization. And what a Glorious Civilization, at that!
One that gave birth to the only Nation ever Founded in and Standing upon the Principle of Individual Liberty! The Greatest Nation the Earth has ever known!
A wonderfully falible, Human, Nation, to be sure. That has made a couple of errors -- although interning suspects in time of war has not been one of them. And few it has not been quick to correct and to put to rights!
Here's something else for you to ponder:
Sometime soon -- within thirty years -- the gang of psychopathogical mass-murderers that calls itself "china" will attack us.
And we will then round up and intern scores of thousands of the Chinese among us.
And that will be the right thing to do then, too.
Why are you obsessing this point? Doesn't it bother you to expose and to project your racism and your bigotry?
Skypilot implies in comment 1, that there should be linkage between the Japanese military abusing our soldiers and the US govt. abusing the mostly american citizens of japanese descent. If you support this linkage, then I think you and skypilot are the bigots and not me.
Okay, now it's your turn to call me name. Let's see how long we can keep this up. Maybe we can set a record for name calling. Anyone got a guiness book of records ?
So let's keep our powder dry for the skirmishes in which we can support each other, how about that? <];^)~<
Since you have implied I am a "bigot", allow me the courtesy of defending myself. I posted a historic article written by Mr. Gould in the wake of WW II about the crimes against humanity that our prisoners suffered. There was a HUGE discussion here on FR that I posted in #1 regarding internment camps
I said was that if we were to discuss the "pain" of internment camps by Japanese (excuse me for forgetting the hyphenated "-American" that is so in vogue these days but wasn't used in 1941)' then "this should be known." The "linkage" you imply that I derive is your own. To come to that conclusion, you must determine "moral equivilance."
You don't know anything about me. I could go off with "outrage" about the bigot implication, but I know this touches on raw emotions and people here are free to discuss difficult issues. So I just ask to shake hands and agree to disagree.
If you go through that area, you'll get the idea that the evil, wicked, racist Americans started this terrible war with Japan. They even call America "Racist" for publishing articles about how Japanese pilots would strafe American pilots in parachutes or life boats.
I'm not saying it was right to put American citizens in internment camps. But right then we were fighting for our lives.
BTW, the Smithsonian doesn't mention the Bataan Death March or Japanese treatment of POWs or Japanese "experiments" on the Chinese. But then the Japanese aren't American, so the Smithsonian doesn't hate them.
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