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PLEASE READ THIS BILL! Make noise. Scream bloody murder. Get this out and swarm Congress and the Senate with as many objections as you can muster. This endangers ALL of us and will totally destroy whole neighborhoods wholesale putting them DIRECTLY under government control. Private property will become obsolete under this bill. Those who suffer most will be small, independent business which run the economies of autonimous communities and is the worst nightmare assault on property rights I have ever seen.
1 posted on 04/04/2002 2:56:04 AM PST by Nix 2
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already here in the city of Rochester NY for the last five years. total plummeting of property values, white flight and urban decay roars on.
2 posted on 04/04/2002 3:00:29 AM PST by bandlength
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city of rochester has codified it's emminent domination:

click here to read the lunacy

4 posted on 04/04/2002 3:11:40 AM PST by bandlength
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The name of this bill alone is enough to send chills up and down my spine, throw in the numerous buzz words, like "sustainable economic developement", environmental stewardship, social equity, etc, etc, and you have another example of the federal tit offering "free milk" for the states who know better than to turn down "free milk" because someone else will get it if "we" don't.

One more car hooked up to the federal freight train called the freedom express, on course for derailment. She is going fast enough to detach herself from earths gravity, and assisted in this particular case by a host of senatorial saviors, unworthy of either name. What is somewhat surprising is mr bennett from Utah. This is what control is all about. The senate is attempting to run the country folks and run the table in the process.

6 posted on 04/04/2002 3:30:12 AM PST by wita
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... the worst nightmare assault on property rights ...

PING !! !!

Pass this on to all your ping-lists, and read the info bandlength has provided. Rottenchester has infected the whole area in Upstate; we don't need it spread across the country.

11 posted on 04/04/2002 4:01:48 AM PST by brityank
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Looks like the American Planning Association wrote this - it provides all kind of money to pay their members with (job security)!
12 posted on 04/04/2002 4:02:44 AM PST by Kay Ludlow
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Recall seeing something about this yesterday. Thanks for posting the bill itself.

Deus Vult! 'Pod

17 posted on 04/04/2002 4:37:11 AM PST by sauropod
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Amendment V, U.S. Constitution,

"...nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation."

18 posted on 04/04/2002 4:51:40 AM PST by tahiti
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BTT
22 posted on 04/04/2002 5:29:26 AM PST by texlok
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"We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships." "

Every United States Congressman supporting this bill is a socialist. Substitute the word Socialist or Socialism where ever you see the word sustainable. You will see the goal of the people promoting this anti-freedom, anti-American creed. Its that simple. They are enacting legislation that is overtly socialist! This goes beyond compensating people for confiscated property. It smites the heart of our Republic and creates a socialist society brick by brick. We must attack this bill as an overt attempt to subvert our government and to create socialist government where NO ONE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN PROPERTY EXCEPT THE PARTY ELITES. Just like the Soviet Union was. EXACTLY like the Soviet Union was.
23 posted on 04/04/2002 5:58:24 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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We ought to go back to the pre-FDR interpretation of the Commerce Clause and tear the heart out of this kind of crap.
27 posted on 04/04/2002 6:09:51 AM PST by tacticalogic
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land use plans are created based on multi-jurisdictional governmental cooperation, when practicable, particularly in the case of land use plans based on watershed boundaries.

I can sum this up in two words. STREAM BUFFERS. In western NC, we've been fighting the implementation of buffers from the state. Looks like they're going the federal route.

Jeff, with all of your work for Klamath, are you aware of any petitions or national organizations fighting this?

29 posted on 04/04/2002 6:11:23 AM PST by Helix
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There is a solution.
31 posted on 04/04/2002 6:19:11 AM PST by farmfriend
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This bill is an example of why we need to elect more Republicans (not enviral RINOS) in the house and the senate this year.

Take away the slim majority vote the Rats have in the senate, and these enviral anti human bills will never see the light of day.

If we control the Senate and House, this bill will face the same fate that our current energy bill is facing in the RAT controlled Senate lead by Mullah Shorty Da$$hole. It will never see the light of day!

Anyone else see a clear and present danger from these senators who hate America/Americans: L. CHAFEE, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. CLELAND, Mr. JEFFORDS, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. LIEBERMAN, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. BAUCUS?

38 posted on 04/04/2002 6:39:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To assist States with land use planning in order to promote improved quality of life, regionalism, sustainable economic development, and environmental stewardship, and for other purposes.

You are right, this is so horrible it's evil. This must not pass.

41 posted on 04/04/2002 6:43:51 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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There are two bills, HR1433 and S975. The House version has 47 Democrats as co-sponsors; the Senate version has 8 -- including my scumbag RINO Senator Specter. Since Thomas doesn't let you in easily, just put the related bill numbers in the Search block to read them.
46 posted on 04/04/2002 6:57:52 AM PST by brityank
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bump!
73 posted on 04/04/2002 10:26:34 AM PST by headsonpikes
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SHEEPLE don't need no steenkeen property rights.
76 posted on 04/04/2002 12:32:09 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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Thanks so much for presenting this information so well. I'm just getting up to speed on it!! So many battles...
77 posted on 04/04/2002 12:48:16 PM PST by AuntB
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Private property will become obsolete under this bill.

Can't say I see the problem. There is already state and local land use planning. Is it the cooperation between the feds and the local governments that is the danger?

88 posted on 04/04/2002 2:25:52 PM PST by RightWhale
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Does this bill have a number?

HR2829 is another bill in Congress that is designed to require better science than the junk science that has been used time and again by the armies of the night to deny citizens the use of their land through the Endangered Species Act.

We need make a collective effort to either scrap the ESA entirely, or take it a step at a time and reform it, pull its teeth, so that it can no longer be used as the buzzsaw it is, and has been, to prune the Tree of Liberty of its protective shade.

Separation of church and state was one idea our government was founded upon. Environmentalism is the religion used by a Conglomerate of foundations, corporations, environmental whacks, and bureaucracy to deny citizens the use of their property. The complaints of citizens is often ignored. The plight of the Klamath Basin farmers is but one eample.

I could pose a canny analogy to our nation's early days in which legitimate grievances were ignored, and a crisis followed. It should be obvious to us all that we need to act in unison if we want to be heard. The question is do we care enough to do so?

This bill (number?) appears to be another case of the gradual and silent pruning of the Tree of Liberty that has been ignored for too long. The whacks can climb a tree to defend it, but few are willing to defend the Tree of Liberty.

99 posted on 04/05/2002 3:16:10 AM PST by WhiteyAppleseed
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