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Whatever Happened to Carnivore?
Yahoo.com ^ | Mon Apr 1, 2:45 PM ET | Jay Lyman, www.NewsFactor.com

Posted on 04/02/2002 11:00:50 PM PST by antidemocommie

Whatever Happened to Carnivore?
Mon Apr 1, 2:45 PM ET

Jay Lyman, www.NewsFactor.com

Its name may have changed from Carnivore to DCS-1000, but the controversial cybersnooping software used by the Federal Bureau of Investigation is still on the hunt for information, and likely is scouring vast amounts of Internet communication.

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In fact, Carnivore probably is chomping on more data than ever as a result of the September 11th terrorist attacks in the United States. Following those events, it was widely reported that the FBI (news - web sites) installed its e-mail snooping program on several Internet service provider (ISP) networks around the nation.

But a recent court order may mean that more information will be revealed about how Carnivore works and what it is being used for, according to privacy advocates.

After all, while a majority of people may now be more willing to come under government scrutiny in the name of security, civil libertarians say their concerns that the snooping software threatens privacy have actually heightened since September 11th.

Guarded by Government

Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) general counsel David Sobel told NewsFactor that acquiring information about the e-mail sifting software has been a long struggle. On March 25th, Washington D.C.-based EPIC won a round in that battle when U.S. District Court Judge James Robertson approved a further search of FBI records on Carnivore.

"It looked like something was imminent, then again nothing happened," Sobel said in reference to last year's review of the snooping software by U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites).

Sobel added that despite a law passed last year requiring the FBI to report on Carnivore's use, Ashcroft's dismissal of disclosures and discussions was still another letdown in privacy groups' continuing efforts to learn about the software program.

Digging Deeper

However, Sobel said, EPIC and other organizations are keeping pressure on the U.S. Department of Justice (news - web sites) and the FBI to disclose exactly what law enforcement officials are doing with Carnivore and how the software, which is reportedly capable of "filtering" e-mail, works.

"We're still criticizing, and we're still pursuing our Freedom of Information Act request," Sobel said. "The judge agreed the initial search was not complete, and the FBI has been sent back to do more searching. Now there's a likelihood that our lawsuit will generate more disclosure. I'm hopeful we'll learn more."

The FBI has until May 24th to conduct deeper information searches on Carnivore data, including searches in the bureau's offices of General Counsel and Congressional and Public Affairs, Judge Robertson ordered.

Willing To Be Watched

Still, SecurityFocus incident analyst Ryan Russell said the events of September 11th changed many citizens' minds.

"I think there is a lot less concern from the majority of people that they're going to be monitored," Russell told NewsFactor.

Sobel argued, conversely, that people know the FBI already had significant abilities -- both legal and technical -- to monitor communication before the attacks.

"As time goes on, people are going to realize these agencies had significant powers before September 11th, and it didn't prevent what happened," he said.

Let Off Leash?

Regardless of whether people approved of its decision, the FBI deployed Carnivore on ISPs across the country after September 11th, according to numerous reports.

While EarthLink had resisted Carnivore deployment on its network prior to the attacks, an EarthLink spokesperson told NewsFactor shortly afterward that he assumed every large ISP in the country had been contacted by the FBI and that all of them were cooperating.

More recently, however, EarthLink spokesperson Carla Shaw told NewsFactor that the company's cooperation with law enforcement does not mean that Carnivore is scanning the EarthLink network.

"Carnivore is not deployed on our network," Shaw said. "We certainly do comply with law enforcement, but we do so in a way that does not compromise our users' privacy."

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1 posted on 04/02/2002 11:00:50 PM PST by antidemocommie
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More recently, however, EarthLink spokesperson Carla Shaw told NewsFactor that the company's cooperation with law enforcement does not mean that Carnivore is scanning the EarthLink network.

"Carnivore is not deployed on our network," Shaw said. "We certainly do comply with law enforcement, but we do so in a way that does not compromise our users' privacy."

Thats not what Ive heard. I've also heard recently, but don't yet know if its true, that all the _rr.com systems like Austin.rr.com, and Houston.rr.com, and the warner systems are "cooperating" and that some systems are not working as well now. This is fresh from the grapevine, not a newspaper, or tv broadcast. It may be a total fabrication, or absolutely the truth. Take your pick because Im only reporting what Ive heard, not facts.

2 posted on 04/02/2002 11:09:19 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
Whatever Happened to Carnivore?

It ate the whole thing.

3 posted on 04/02/2002 11:11:06 PM PST by Texasforever
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index bump
4 posted on 04/02/2002 11:15:40 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: antidemocommie
You are supposed to forget about Carnivore! Do not bring this subject up again in a public place!
5 posted on 04/03/2002 7:18:19 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: antidemocommie
http://www.truthout.org/0194.ACLU.e-Privacy.htm
6 posted on 04/03/2002 7:48:15 AM PST by B4Ranch
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