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A LETTER FROM ISRAEL
E-mail | March 30, 2002 | Dr. Daniel Mann-Segal

Posted on 04/02/2002 12:49:44 PM PST by Tom Jefferson

I am enclosing an email I received from an Australian doctor who has been living in Israel for the past seven years and who just recently married a cousin of mine.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arafat; israel; napalminthemorning; palestinians; wot
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To: the rifleman
Thanks for your post #59
61 posted on 04/02/2002 4:03:56 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Tom Jefferson
BTTT
62 posted on 04/02/2002 4:08:29 PM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Your welcome. I'm going to print this out for tomorrow, I want her to read this.
63 posted on 04/02/2002 4:10:10 PM PST by the rifleman
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To: Tom Jefferson
Bump to self for future re-reading (and sharing)
64 posted on 04/02/2002 4:18:39 PM PST by ChewedGum
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To: the rifleman
BUMP..and lets come back and bump this one. I've bookmarked it for tomorrow. Nite!!
65 posted on 04/02/2002 4:20:55 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: ChewedGum
Bump
66 posted on 04/02/2002 4:30:11 PM PST by Tom Jefferson
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Bump...LOL. Me too.

The pastor of our church is quite the missionary too. He recently returned from a trip to Nagaland in India.(free,sponsered by a private individual)

He was greeted with much love by the former head hunters. :) We now have a BIG mission there with some wonderful people.

It's amazing how many rupies you get for a dollar. :) One day of labor for me helps those those missionaries for months!

67 posted on 04/02/2002 4:40:29 PM PST by the rifleman
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife;dennisw;bvw;monkeyshine;onyx;d4now
Danny's article brings forth a perspective that is highly accurate.

A close friend lived at Kibbutz Menhaim..one of his friends served with a special forces squad ..he lived in Kfar Gil'adi near the Lebanese border.
My friend Tim would drive up to Kfar Gil'adi to meeet his friend..and to go into Lebanon..this was in the late 70's.
On one trip they were on a narrow winding road..some Arabic teens were blocking the road ..and were a bit unruley when asked to move aside.
The special forces friend got out of the car after a moment and some cursing in Arabic..pushed one teens away from his bicycle and threw it over the roadside precipice.
Tim said he was startled..his friend who was so disciplined came apart..and overreacted to a minor incident.
As Tims friend got back in the car he said.."Arrogant little bastards...I'm probably going to have to kill him when he gets older"!.
Tim would often ask his freind what's been happening..whats the IDF up to..he knew his friend would not tell..but he would look at his eye's when the answer "Nothing" came.

During another visit to Kfar Gil'adi his friend was absent for soccer the next morning...a few days later he showed up...Tim asked.."Where were you"..the answer.."business".
10 years later..Tim found out what "Business" meant..over drinks..his friend shared why he took off that..Business was going into Lebanon..to a mountian top fortress with his special forces unit...there they had a firefight..and captured the leader of Hizbullah .

Tim would tell me stories of others on his kibbutz..of Generals..who loved to tend gardens while not seeing duty..of "Landscape experts"..who were pilots in the IAF.
Tim said he marveled at their discipline..how they seperated duty from life...constantly Tim was suprised.
"He said to me..Brad..Israeli's enjoy life..they really live..they seldom waste brain time on the B.S...they know their lives could be forfeit in a moment..they understand their place." "The Arabs will never defeat Israel".
My friend Tim often comments about our world here in Canada..."Such cry babies he say's..we have no problems here"!

68 posted on 04/02/2002 4:41:50 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Tom Jefferson
Wonderful letter, and the most profound statement,

"If you look at the last few years you can this about Arafat: Either you can’t control your own people, in which case, why are we negotiating with you, or you are controlling your own people in these terrorist attacks, in which case, why are we negotiating with you?"

This pretty much sums up the entire problem I would think.

69 posted on 04/02/2002 4:52:03 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Tom Jefferson
Excellent. Bttt
70 posted on 04/02/2002 5:04:21 PM PST by PA Engineer
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To: Tom Jefferson
One of the all-time moving posts on FR. The source is not an article from a newspaper, but from a warm, caring professional guy that could be your neighbor.

If you send this letter to your own mailing list as a personal email campaign of your own, think of how many tens of thousands of Americans that just we freepers can reach.

This man spent a lot of time writing of the history of the region and how everyday living is for he and his family during this reign of terroe. Can we do less than take a few minutes tonight or tomorrow to give his words wings beyond the comparitively few here on this forum?

Leni

71 posted on 04/02/2002 5:07:54 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Mudboy Slim
Howdy, Mud. I haven't run into you for a while. I thought I'd bump this and give you a "Hey!" at the same time.
72 posted on 04/02/2002 5:21:30 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Tom Jefferson
This letter should be required reading for all Americans. Thanks for posting.
73 posted on 04/02/2002 5:32:53 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Light Speed
Great post I read every word.
74 posted on 04/02/2002 5:41:18 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Tom Jefferson
In July 2000 when Barak sat down with Arafat and offered him 97% of the West Bank - it was the most that Israel could do. Israel amounts to 1/2000 the size of its Arab neighbors - and is only nine miles wide at its center. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab country - it has always been a Jewish capital - yet we offered Arafat part of Jerusalem for his capital. We could do no more. Arafat rejected our offer.

This is only because Arafat will only be satisfied by a total destruction of the Jews, much like his Nazi predecessors.

75 posted on 04/02/2002 5:41:35 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: alaskanfan
Don't let this thread die...BTTT.
76 posted on 04/02/2002 6:01:12 PM PST by copycat
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To: Tom Jefferson; dennisw
Awesome email, it covered so much pertinent history - excellent timeline as well as personal perspective. It's a keeper, and I will pass it along (minus the private info) as well, if you don't mind. Thank you for sharing it, and thanks for the ping, dennisw - like I said already, some great ones today!
77 posted on 04/02/2002 6:37:30 PM PST by agrace
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To: dennisw
Take a minute and try to feel what it is like after having offered everything we could and we are answered with bombs in our cafes and restaurants, our markets and malls and our Passover Seders. It is clear that the Palestinians do not want us to retreat to the 1967 borders - they want us out of the Middle East. Incidentally, if all the fighting is about our retreating to the 1967 borders - what was all the fighting about prior to 1967?

The Palestinians only understand the language of violence. They see a generous offer as weakness, and to them weakness is an incitement to violence. The Palestinians/Arabs and Israel's enemies hate Israel greatness and their contribution to Western civilization. The difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians is crucial, it is not that appeasement is futile but it is dangerous. However, Israelis should never again be driven from their homes into foreign lands by terrorists.

78 posted on 04/02/2002 6:46:32 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dennisw
Dennis please add me to your list. Thanks. :)
79 posted on 04/02/2002 7:01:55 PM PST by supercalifragilistic
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To: Tom Jefferson
IF the terrorist had their way it would be like this in the USA.
80 posted on 04/02/2002 7:17:43 PM PST by dalebert
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