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Pope gives blessing to a patron saint of Harry Potters (sic) OR Bless You, Harry Potter
Sunday Times of London via Lew Rockwell ^ | March 31, 2002 (Times) and April 2, 2002 (repeated on Lew Rockwell) | unnamed writer for Sunday Times of London

Posted on 04/02/2002 10:21:37 AM PST by Exigence

Sunday Times of London

March 31, 2002

Pope gives blessing to a patron saint of Harry Potters

BLESS you, Harry Potter. Thanks to Pope John Paul II, Harry will soon have a patron saint to turn to when spells threaten to go horribly wrong, writes John Follain.

The Pope is planning to name Saint Don Bosco, a 19th-century Italian priest with a passion for magic, as the patron saint of conjurers, magicians and wizards.

The idea is the brainchild of Father Silvio Mantelli, a bespectacled priest and magician who boasts the stage name Mago Sales and has devoured all of J K Rowling’s Harry Potter books. He likes to celebrate mass wearing a clown’s plastic red nose.

During a papal audience in January, Mantelli gave the Pope a magic wand from India. “I asked whether he would be willing to name a patron saint for magicians and wizards and I suggested Don Bosco. The Pope told me this would be a way of spreading peace and wonder in the world,” Mantelli said.

A month later the Vatican wrote to him confirming that the Pope had given his seal of approval.

Don Bosco was born near Turin in 1815. As a child he watched visiting performers in his village piazza and developed an interest in magic from them. His repertoire included making rabbits disappear and finding coins in a loaf of bread.

Not all Catholic officials are convinced of the benefits of magic. Last December Father Gabriele Amorth, the church’s best-known exorcist, said Harry Potter was inspired by the devil.

Mantelli has few doubts that the saint would watch over the fortunes of the young wizard. “Harry is a force for good, there’s no satanism in there at all,” he said. “The books inspire me, although Potter’s is a world of fantasy. I have to use a trick or two in my line of work, but I can’t perform miracles.”


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KEYWORDS: harrypotter; pope; saint
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To: Psalm 73
Not if they're of the David Copperfield variety. Get a life.
21 posted on 04/02/2002 10:59:57 AM PST by Junior
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To: grumpster-dumpster
The crux was that it was refering to "stage illusionists" (David Coperfield 'Entertainment types') NOT those voodoo types.

Why would this debunk it? Harry Potter is not satanic, or "voodoo," to use your terms. So, equating the fiction to "stage illusionists" is entirely appropriate.

22 posted on 04/02/2002 11:01:00 AM PST by Exigence
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To: grumpster-dumpster
Thank you. It gets kinda nutty here sometimes.
23 posted on 04/02/2002 11:03:23 AM PST by kidd
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To: wideawake
"Mantelli should know better than to muddy the waters with his occult references.

I agree 100%. You would think he would have been smart enough to figure out what kind of a controversy this would create... no matter how good the intentions. His timing is waaaaay off!!

24 posted on 04/02/2002 11:04:18 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: Askel5
also at Ananova (as accessed from The Linking Page (for magicians).

A cached copy of the story from EWTN (via Zenit)

I can't find anything substantiating Bosco's actually becoming patron saint of magicians "(excluding occultists)".

26 posted on 04/02/2002 11:05:06 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Exigence
He likes to celebrate mass wearing a clown’s plastic red nose.

With all due respect to this priest by virtue of his ordination, saluting the uniform, not the man, and all of that ... reading this makes me want to slap him soundly so his cheeks would be the same color as his fake nose.

Forgive me for my lack of Christian charity, if that's truly what it is. God help us.

27 posted on 04/02/2002 11:05:25 AM PST by Campion
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To: grumpster-dumpster
Like far too many 60s-era priests, he is an egotist of earthshaking proportions.

He has no notion of sacerdotal dignity or the necessity for the clergy to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

28 posted on 04/02/2002 11:09:06 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Campion
With all due respect to this priest by virtue of his ordination, saluting the uniform, not the man, and all of that ... reading this makes me want to slap him soundly so his cheeks would be the same color as his fake nose.

Ah, but many Christian illusionists have fine ministries. As do Christian karate experts, etc., etc., etc.

Surely you are not restricting the expression of religion to staid and traditional approaches? There's a reason why many churches with contemporary music services are growing and finding they appeal to a younger audience who wants to do more with their faith than just take it to church on Sunday.

29 posted on 04/02/2002 11:12:19 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Campion
I guarantee that this liturgical buffoonery derives right from the Missal of 1970 with its provision for "Children's Masses" - a ridiculous innovation which has been the excuse for liturgical abuses throughout the Church.

Why couldn't have the Fathers of Vatican II lived by their own document Sacrosanctum Concilium? Why couldn't they follow their own advice?

30 posted on 04/02/2002 11:13:02 AM PST by wideawake
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To: kidd;Exigence
Exigence: Why would this debunk it? Harry Potter is not satanic, or "voodoo," to use your terms. So, equating the fiction to "stage illusionists" is entirely appropriate.

I used the wrong word "debunk" ...I had another around here somewhere, but I've misplaced it.

kidd: Your welcome... (I hope "welcome" is the right word this time....I've misplaced my "Thank you" as well... course that's probably an illusion on my part.) :o)

31 posted on 04/02/2002 11:14:37 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: Exigence
Traditional approaches worked just fine from 33 AD to 1970 AD.

I don't know what denomination (if any) you belong to - but among Catholics attendance at Mass has declined more than 40% since "staid and traditional" liturgies were abandoned.

The most vibrant and fastest-growing Catholic communities in the US are the ones which have returned to dignified, solemn liturgy and the use of Latin.

If young people need contemporary music more than they need the Sacraments, they've already made their choice of which master they will serve.

32 posted on 04/02/2002 11:16:36 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Vesuvius
I don't think he is involved in the occult or is seeking answers there (he's a prestidigitator not a soothsayer) - he merely seems to feel that the occult isn't all that dangerous.

Your Scriptural citation gives a more realistic perspective.

33 posted on 04/02/2002 11:18:49 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
"He has no notion of sacerdotal dignity or the necessity for the clergy to avoid even the appearance of impropriety."

Agreed. And he has no sense of the ridicule he heaps upon all the many fine, dillegent and devoted Priests and Catholics through his "clown-act."

34 posted on 04/02/2002 11:21:20 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: Exigence
Ah, but many Christian illusionists have fine ministries. As do Christian karate experts, etc., etc., etc.

That's fine by me. My problem is with a priest of God offering the unbloody re-presentation of the Sacrifice of Calvary while wearing a clown's nose. It's a profanation and a blasphemy. What he wears on his nose outside of the sanctuary is his business.

35 posted on 04/02/2002 11:25:00 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
Forgive me for my lack of Christian charity, if that's truly what it is. God help us.

Violence solves nothing. Pray for his peaceful death. Soon.

36 posted on 04/02/2002 11:25:55 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Campion
I suspect the clown nose is worn during Masses celebrated expressly for circus performers.
37 posted on 04/02/2002 11:32:50 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Exigence
How about Bishop Pike? We haven't heard from him in awhile, he must be communicating with Don Bosco. Try Juan Diego. Any other nonsense added to nonsense still is nonsense.
38 posted on 04/02/2002 11:34:20 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Psalm 73
Don Bosco was not a sorceror, he did stage magic; y'know card tricks and pulling bunnies out of hat.
39 posted on 04/02/2002 12:24:58 PM PST by DonQ
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To: Exigence
Surely you are not restricting the expression of religion to staid and traditional approaches?

Not yet. Someday, though, when I have that power...

There's a reason why many churches with contemporary music services are growing and finding they appeal to a younger audience...

Yes -- because many kids (and people today in general) are shallow, superficial, and entertainment-oriented to the point where they cannot comprehend true worship. In other words, they find real worship to be boring.

Unfortunately, those who go to church seeking entertainment, emotional experiences, and fun are fooling themselves. Worship has nothing to do with entertainment, fun, or good vibrations. Worship consists of abandoning ourselves and our needs, feelings, and wants and offering ourselves up for total communion with Christ. Comparing the joy that comes from true liturgical worship to the "fun", entertaining Rock-and-Roll Jesus Show down at Rev. Krayzee M. Pheelgood's PrayzeChyrch Xtreem on the freeway is like comparing the joy of married love to the cheap thrill of a quickie one-night stand. Is a one-night stand with Jesus really what people need?

Screw the "younger audience" -- and the "older audience", too. Any church that has an "audience" isn't a church at all -- it's an entertainment venue, not a house of worship. A true church has a congregation of believers eager to commune with God, not an audience of spectators hungry for the latest sounds.

If people want entertainment, let them go to a nightclub. Staid and traditional approaches to worship are the only true approaches.

40 posted on 04/02/2002 12:37:23 PM PST by B-Chan
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