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Should we impeach?

Posted on 03/30/2002 2:25:38 AM PST by In veno, veritas

Bush recently signed an unconstitutional bill into law, CFR. With his quote of "but it does present some legitimate constitutional questions", he showed that he had foreknowledge of that fact. He blatantly endangered our rights and failed to keep his oath "to support and defend the Constitution". With all this in mind, I cannot think of one reason why we should not move for his impeachment. If anyone of you can think of one, please respond.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: bush; impeach
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To: metesky
I agree a lot with you as well.
61 posted on 03/31/2002 12:47:24 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: Polonius
How would you debate the point? So far only two people have shown me reason why not to. A special hint, I've only read up to you.
62 posted on 03/31/2002 12:49:27 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: alnick
Get a decent responce.
63 posted on 03/31/2002 12:50:18 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: snippy_about_it
Who says I'm not for removing them either?
64 posted on 03/31/2002 12:51:26 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas
With all this in mind, I cannot think of one reason why we should not move for his impeachment. If anyone of you can think of one, please respond.

How about because the bill he signed IS constitutional until and unless the judicial branch says otherwise? And because even if the judicial branch does eventually decide that, that's the way the system works?

65 posted on 03/31/2002 12:52:25 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Windy-Dave
Interesting, what do you propose as a solution?
66 posted on 03/31/2002 12:53:15 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: onedoug
Neither was the Clinton trial.
67 posted on 03/31/2002 12:55:19 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: YaYa123
Don't sell me so short, so far posts 22 and 23 shown me reasons why not, unfortunatley they were the only ones who could so far.
68 posted on 03/31/2002 12:57:00 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: mrsmith
The first three and Harrison.
69 posted on 03/31/2002 12:57:41 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas
Yet another example of an asinine thread that has made Free Republic such a hassle. Expensive bandwidth being wasted by complete morons who think they are impressing everyone by trying to be non-hypocritical.

Bush took a turd and didn't wipe well. Yep we would go after Clinton for that so Bush must go! Bush didn't sign an excecutive order allowing me to carry an RPG. Bush didn't order the death penalty for all abortion doctors. Bush didn't order the FBI to arrest Clinton.

Get over yourself. Who are you trying to impress with your stupidity?

70 posted on 03/31/2002 12:57:54 AM PST by paul544
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To: Mfkmmof4
...In exchange for our rights.
71 posted on 03/31/2002 12:58:58 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: inquest
What would you say about the Patriot Act then?
72 posted on 03/31/2002 1:00:11 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: goldstategop
That is a good answer. You make reason provider #3 for this whole thread so far.
73 posted on 03/31/2002 1:01:57 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: Timesink
That is a pretty crappy system. The system I learned about from the founding fathers say that we are the final authority.
74 posted on 03/31/2002 1:03:42 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: paul544
The Free Republic should be a place for people to learn while discussing politics. Maybe they would save money if people such as yourself would quit posting insults with no point to the matter at hand. Throughout this thread, there has been some interesting info coming out, with only 3 people able to convince me where I was wrong. Who the hell do you think you are? Do you feel better for insulting ignorance instead of giving correction?
75 posted on 03/31/2002 1:19:20 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas
Yes, I agree with you, #22 & #23 provide persuasive arguments, ample to conclude, the correct response to your question is a resounding "NO".
76 posted on 03/31/2002 4:24:16 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: CDHart
Do you REALLY believe that the majority of our government is corrupt? Try getting involved in government first before you make such statements. I have been a County Commissioner, State Representative and an appointee in the Reagan Administration. Yes, there is some corruption out there, but the majority of people in our government (gasp - even the Democrats) are hard-working, diligent people who care about their jobs.
77 posted on 03/31/2002 5:02:54 AM PST by Jefferson1776
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To: Jefferson1776
It depends on what you mean by corrupt. Lawmakers make the laws to serve their own purposes, if they end up breaking the law, they are either incredibly stupid or avaricious, or they made an error in how they designed the law in the first place. Case in point, many years ago an Illinois Secretary of State died in office leaving $400,000 in cash in shoe boxes in his closet in a hotel room which he used as his residence while in the capital city.

Last year a former Illinois Secretary of State who had become governor was found to have converted $160,000 from his campaign fund to personal use. This $160,000 had been traced by the Feds to have been contributed by convicted felons who had operated a licenses for bribes operation out of the Secretary of State's office before he had become governor.

Much like Pontius Pilate, Ryan immediately attempted to wash his hands. He donated $160,000 to charity. The point is that under existing state law for the year 2001, the conversion of that cash was LEGAL. Although it seems that if had done that same conversion of campaign funds to personal use in 2002, it would not have been legal. It is a shell game, the corrupt politicians of both parties are continually altering the law to serve themselves.

In Hell there are of lot of former politicians like Paul Powell whining that they never had the luxury that these modern politicians had, that is, of making graft an acceptable and legal practice.

78 posted on 03/31/2002 5:27:26 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: In veno, veritas
You're such an idiot, why should I lower myself to even bother convincing you of anything? That is what you want. Attention. "Please please post to me, please.".

And as far as who I think I am, I am someone who donated to Free Republic and don't like to see my money being pissed away by someone who says stupid things just to sound important.

79 posted on 03/31/2002 9:13:11 AM PST by paul544
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To: In veno, veritas
First of all do you accept that America is a Constitutinal Republic, that has power, given by the people(ELECTORATE) to ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES? The CFR does not abide with this train of thought. Think for a moment, how many high government officials that you see on television regularly including our present administration refer to America as a Constitutional Republic? Those that do are so far removed as to count for nothing. This is why almost everyone refers to America as a democracy instead!

The American Lexicon has been successfully attacked to the point that even the average citizens of America have been subverted to accept this as fact! Benjamin Franklin was once asked the question by a patriot, What kind of government will you give us? His reply was "A Republic If you Can Keep It". We have not been good stewards of our once Free Republic because of our ignorance and tolerance of organizations like the CFR and others.

You asked what I would propose? Well I am first and for all time a true American Patriot. I want back what has been stolen away from us as Freedom Loving Americans! Since the Council On Foreign Relations is an UN-ELECTED body And has never gone before the ELECTORATE for a vote and operates independently making and formulating Policy that sends our Valiant Youth off to no win escapades I want this to stop immediately! I want the President of The United States to start instructing his cabinent and full administration including all underlings to start refering to America as a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy! Furthur more all National Policy must be formulated by ELECTED GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS who are open to redress and removal by impeachment if necessary. All hidden aspects of UN-ELECTED subversive organizations are to be fully venerated for public viewing.

The vast majority of our Nations problems stem from our collective ignorance of this topic. I have advocated numerous times that this kind of reform happen but we the the people must be willing to stand up and insist that it be done. Power in the wrong hands is something we must make sure is watched carefully. Trust is earned not assumed or appointed!

80 posted on 03/31/2002 9:46:17 AM PST by Windy-Dave
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