Long-Destroyed Fifth Planet May Have Caused Lunar Cataclysm, Researchers Say

SPACE dot COM ^ | 18 March 2002 ,posted: 03:00 pm ET | By Leonard David, Senior Space Writer

[SunkenCiv]

TVF still insists the "Face on Mars" is an artifact. It is an artifact, but only an artifact of the low resolution of the Viking orbiter cameras. It's a natural formation. Still an interesting book for the Exploding Planet Hypothesis (EPH). Since the first edition, TVF has revised the EPH to include an earlier EP to account for the KT impact and extinction.

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Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets: Paradoxes Resolved, Origins Illuminated by Tom Van Flandern old edition

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[SunkenCiv]

Jay W: The planet Vulcan is supposed to be in the same orbit as Earth, just directly opposite the sun, and thus perpetually invisible to us from Earth. Well, that's the so-called theory, or notion, at any rate! ;-)

Vulcan was supposed to be a planet orbiting inside the orbit of Mercury and perturbing it. There were sightings of sun-crossing asteroids (none of which were ever seen again, suggesting they were nowhere near Mercury, but were in fact near the Earth) attributed to Vulcan. The precession of Mercury was given a different origin by Einstein, and the search for Vulcan effectively ended.

The Nine Planets: Hypothetical Planets

[Lazamataz]

van Flandern says Mars was a moon of the 5th planet, which would have made it the 4th planet at that time. Why did it explode? It may have been a duplicate thread planet.

It was a troll planet, and the Viking Kitties zotted it.

[RightWhale]

Oppenheimer, Einstein's boss at Princeton, thought Einstein was a crackpot. Except for 1905, it might be so viewed. Maybe including 1905.

[RightWhale]

I don't know where the planet went, boss. It looks like it just exploded like a frog.

[SunkenCiv]

The Exploded Planet Hypothesis 2000
Evidence that Mars is a former moon
http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/eph/eph2000.asp

"Especially significant in this regard is the fact that half of Mars is saturated with craters, and half is only sparsely cratered. Moreover, the crustal thickness has apparently been augmented over one hemisphere by up to 20 km or so, gradually tapering off near the hemisphere boundaries. This 'crustal dichotomy' is also readily seen in Martian elevation maps"

[SunkenCiv]

Red Planet's Ancient Equator Located
Scientific American (online) | April 20, 2005 | Sarah Graham
Posted on 04/24/2005 8:18:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1390424/posts

[lawdave]

This sounds like the plot of a book I read years ago called "Inherit the Stars" by James Hogan. In it astronauts find a body on the Moon in a space suit that is totally foreign. This launches an investigation which reveals that the body is millions of years old and was left there by the inhabitants of this 5th planet who were on the Moon of the 5th planet when the planet was destroyed. The moon then floated through space until it was captured by Earth's gravity. The survivors then went down to Earth to become our ancestors. Great Book and the first of a series.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Radiometric Dating A Christian Perspective

There are only a few Moon rocks available. They've been dated by using lead and tungsten decays. (These two measurements agree.)

[SunkenCiv]

Great concept for a story. Still in print, various ways.

The Minervan experiment, Inherit the stars, The gentle giants of Ganymede, Giant's star

[isom35]

I have seen the device that destroyed that planet, it eats planets, smashing them to rubble, digesting them for fuel:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/images/Trek/Series/TOS/TOS2-doomsday-blast2.jpg

[Doctor Stochastic]

Of course, now the Moon is 4,530,000,003 years old.

[Uncle Vlad]

And it was built by Halliburton. It's all Bush's fault. ;)

[SunkenCiv]

just a bttt, with a handy link of interest:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=catastrophism

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks for the ping, the links are brilliant, I've been sitting here reading voraciously for two hours or more, but the best IMO was this comment:


"...There are two possible explainations for the 1000 F surface temperature of Venus: Velikovsky's, which is that Venus is in a process of cooling either from a recent creation or from heat generated during recent catastrophic events (i.e. is natively hot), and Carl Sagan's "super greenhouse" theory, which is standard doctrine amongst astronomers, despite being ridiculous.

Sagan in fact is also noted for another super greenhouse theory, i.e. the one which says we should all be dead from the Kuwaiti oil fires in 91. Far as I know, I'm still here and Sagan is still dead. In fact, people living in Kuwait are still alive, and Sagan is still dead...

Sagan's theory would require that Venus' atmosphere be in thermal balance, i.e. since all the heat would be derived from the sun, heat taken in and given out should equal eachother.

I have noted that this is in sharp disagreement with with actual findings, and that astronomers have made a habit of doctoring the findings and have actually found themselves in the position of having to explain AWAY 100% of the raw data. All of the probes which carried infra-red flux (upward vs. downward readings) meters to the surface measured a sharp upward ir flux, which is in keeping with Velikovsky's version, but not that of Sagan.

Astronomers have posted oficial position papers (Revercomb/Suomi et. al) explaining the manner in which each and every such probe "failed", without bothering to try to explain why they should not all be summarily shitcanned for failing to oversee the proper manufacture of so simple an instrument in even one case out of at least four (instruments were not all the same)..."

Made my day!

[md2576]

Perhaps it was the planet believed to have smashed into the earth causing the mantle and debris to coalesce into our moon?

[md2576]

It was made of cheese and a moose ate it!

[Southack]

"Perhaps it was the planet believed to have smashed into the earth causing the mantle and debris to coalesce into our moon?"

The theory that our Moon was captured has more credibility than that it simultaneously formed and orbited the Earth...though technically both ways are possible.

[Heatseeker]

I tried to follow the equations in post #43 at 4 AM and got a headache, only to discover the poster had been zotted. So I'm going to bed. I would appreciate it if no planets crashed into my house until I woke up. Thanks.

[md2576]

From what I heard as of late was that the earth was a molten planet already when it was smashed by another large planet. The resulting blow caused debris and mantle to go into space and eventually the earth came back together as a sphere and the smaller moon coalesced from the debris and gases around the earth after the collision. They claim this also explains why the moon was so much closer to earth in it's early years and slowly moves away.