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To: all;Victoria Delsoul;Darlin'
U.N. conferences are not accustomed to hearing this kind of talk from a U.S. president. Bill Clinton told the Millennium Summit in 2000 that the time had come for national sovereignty to take a back seat to U.N. activism. Bush invoked U.S. sovereignty by defining the conditions upon which U.S. aid will be granted. And he did it with a smile, and without confrontation.


What, no 73 threads bashing Bush for SELLING US OUT AGAIN with this issue, too??

Somehow, I knew this thread would never go to 600 posts with 50 Idiots Bashing Bush repeatedly, and calling him a traitor and a liar, and worse than a Demonrat...

Personally, I think that it is the BUSH BASHERS who are traitors, and liars, and worse than DemonRATS!!!

Come on out Bashers and tell us again 50 times over how Bush lost your vote this time, because a black cat crossed your path, or because Duke lost or some other IDIOTIC reason.

I only wish that I could see 50 threads Bashing the Bush Bashers now.

4 posted on 03/25/2002 3:21:14 AM PST by gratefulwharffratt
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To: gratefulwharffratt
And this is what you have posted on your home page:

Hey Now!! Just a friendly neighborhood southern 'Grateful Wharff Ratt,' at your service.

LOL!!!

6 posted on 03/25/2002 3:47:43 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Bumping your excellent rant!
8 posted on 03/25/2002 4:16:49 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: gratefulwharffratt
I love your screen name!!!

Don't you know there is nothing different between George W. Bush and Al Gore? (/sarcasm)

18 posted on 03/25/2002 5:56:28 AM PST by Wphile
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To: gratefulwharffratt
When President Bush took office and the Republicans had control, what was one of his first moves? To give the United Nations $485 MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY.

Have you heard of the Helms-Biden Legislation?
It pertains to "a no-growth budget for the UN". Transcript of Remarks by Ambassador Richard C. Holbrooke, United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations, on Reform of the UN Scales of Assessment, at the Security Council Stake-Out, December 22, 2000


Ambassador Holbrooke: Oh, that is a very important point. Of course, Senator Biden's comments from this microphone last week were helpful because they indicated to the members of the UN that if the UN helped the U.S. he would lead the effort for the U.S. to help the UN more. However, we will not and cannot accept anything in a UN General Assembly resolution that binds the United States on the basis of what you called "conditionality" and you're using one of the code words in this building so you obviously know what I'm talking about. I'll just be very clear on this. That is against the Constitution and it is against the separation of powers and we cannot and will not accept it. And I think the membership understands that.

So, what has our President done? Obeyed the CONSTITUTION! WOW, AND YOU ARE COMMENDING HIM FOR THIS

However, look what he has done here the summit managed to extract a $5 billion increase in U.S. foreign aid over the next three years, OOPS! Where did the Constitution go?

I am PROUD that he hooked a slippery rope to the grant, "Bush administration officials say the money pledged by Bush will increase further in 2006 if recipient countries meet their part of the bargain, and prove that U.S. donations are not going into a bottomless pit. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/652886/posts?

But my question then is "what is considered a "bottomless pit" amongst politicians who didn't have to earn the money? We have watched our own federal government pour our money down too many boittomless pits, and continue to do so with shear disreguard for what the voters call for. So before you step in a pile of hot cow manure bragging about our President, please applaud the man when he does right but also be willing to criticize him when he doesn't.

If we don't criticize him, how will he know when he is doing "wrong", ie. amnesty for illegals.

22 posted on 03/25/2002 6:27:04 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: gratefulwharffratt
LOL!! Great post #4, GWR.

When he spoke to the delegates on Friday, however, Bush made it clear that U.S. aid would no longer be poured down the U.N. rat-hole as it has been in the past. U.S. aid will be placed into a special "Millennium" account, not simply handed over to the U.N. The U.S., not the U.N., will establish the criteria that must be met by developing nations before receiving U.S. aid.

GW has proven to be an excellent politician!

25 posted on 03/25/2002 6:38:03 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Hmm, so I take it you need some Bush bashing so that you can throw a fit. Well, here you are:

Wobbly Jr. looks like Dopey in Snow White and the 7 Dwarves.

How's that? You happy now?

Seriously, you need to realize that Lamb is as big a Bushbot as anyone on FR. Notice how he says that Bush "made it clear that U.S. aid would not be poured down the U.N. rathole". Why didn't he quote the speech instead of trying to make it sound as though Bush used those very words? That sounds like tough talk, so all the 'bots can rave about what a tough talking "Texan" he is. What did he actually say? Lamb doesn't quote him so I don't know.

The US has one vote. Saying that the US won't vote for a UN taxing authority doesn't derail it forever. Pledging $5 billion in aid to emerging countries as a way of softening the blow of the opposition to a UN tax wasn't necessary at all. It's as easy to say "no" as it is to say "no, but I'll give you this instead". It isn't as though the UN has any authority over the US anyway.

OK,I gave you a little Bush bashing because I knew I was going to be accused of Bush bashing by not slobbering over his shoetops. Really, that's all it takes to be accused of bashing the boy.

PS, there have been many times the number of threads bashing Bush's critics than there have been bashing Bush. You've been on plenty of them yourself.

28 posted on 03/25/2002 6:59:26 AM PST by Twodees
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To: gratefulwharffratt
"tell us again 50 times over how Bush lost your vote this time, because a black cat crossed your path, or because Duke lost or some other IDIOTIC reason."

"Somehow, I knew this thread would never go to 600 posts with 50 Idiots Bashing Bush"

"Personally, I think that it is the BUSH BASHERS who are traitors, and liars, and worse than DemonRATS!!!"

Well, when cheek meets cheek, you have NO rival for denigrating or name calling freepers who disagree with YOU. President Bush handled this better than I would have expected, but he still added 5 billion to our already overly generous foreign aid outlay. Are we supposed to fawn all over him for doing the right thing?

If anyone criticises Bush on policy, there are at least 20 pro Bushies that will call them every name in the book like you just did here.Fortunately for FREE REPUBLIC, there are plenty of courteous FReepers ON BOTH SIDES OF MANY ISSUES who argue their points on the merits as best they can. Your rantings add nothing to a discussion.
29 posted on 03/25/2002 7:30:51 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Thanks for the Ping and the excellant rant. :)

The President reaffirmed U.S. sovereignty. He firmly rejected the UN's global taxation plan. He announced strict new guidelines, independant of UN policies, for nations seeking U.S. aid. He made it clear our dollars we will no longer support nations who refuse to take positive steps to improve their country and help their people. This plain spoken, results oriented President represented us with determination and confidence minus arrogance. He served notice to corrupt regimes that our aid now comes with responsibility and accountability. Not once did he pander nor did he apologize for our prosperity and our quality of life.

You know, I feel certain the conference attendees Got It. Too bad the Bush Bashers aren't as bright. Sadly, they aren't able to grasp or acknowledge success when they see it. Besides, they'd so much rather sit on their behinds complaining rather than trying to help the President help our country.

31 posted on 03/25/2002 7:56:29 AM PST by Darlin'
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To: gratefulwharffratt
The U.N.'s quest for global taxing authority will not go away. Even though this effort has been thwarted, temporarily, the U.N. can be expected to continue its efforts to get out from under the control of the United States.

The UN wants independance??? ... fine cut them off .. stop all checks and send them packing

BTW ... can I be Bushbot #2 fan ...

34 posted on 03/25/2002 8:48:40 AM PST by Mo1
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Big loud bump!
56 posted on 03/25/2002 11:05:42 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. He was right on the UN tax bill but DEAD WRONG on proclaiming that poverty causes terrorism.

Also, I voted for Buchanan.

81 posted on 03/25/2002 4:50:32 PM PST by nonliberal
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To: gratefulwharffratt
BRAVO ! Well and factually stated.
92 posted on 03/25/2002 9:13:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Let's look at the facts.

The "Millennium Challenge Account" described by George W. Bush is a new account of new money to be given gratis (i.e., not a loan) by United States taxpayers to unspecified-in-advance underdeveloped nations through the United Nations, and is on top of UN dues and other expenses already paid by the U. S.

Does anyone think a single underdeveloped nation has to demonstrate "reform" before more U. S. taxpayers' money is extracted and poured into the "Millennium Challenge Account" for the UN?

Does anyone think that the most destitute nations in Africa which do NOT reform themselves because they are run by ruthless dictators who don't care a whit for their subjects will be satisfied when they get NO MONEY from the U. S.?

Since most of the underdeveloped countries are that way because they are under lawless dictators and their plantation serfs have no experience with and no conception of democratic government, there is absolutely NO CHANCE that these nations will undergo genuine reform.

Does anyone think that all the people in the UN who hate the U. S. will be content with a "Millennium Challenge Account" set-up controlled SOLELY by the U. S.?

That, simply, is not the way the UN works.

But meanwhile the American people are being brainwashed into thinking we "have to give more money to the UN".

And all the countries that already want more formal global taxation will continue their agitation for this as strongly as ever.

133 posted on 03/27/2002 9:12:23 PM PST by Warhorse
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