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THE OSCARS!!! Live Thread.... Hosted by The GUILD.
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Posted on 03/24/2002 1:25:38 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: mafree
Is Tiger Woods black?
2,181 posted on 03/24/2002 9:50:01 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: mafree
Good Black folks on FR don't remind everyone of past or present racism? Well I guess that excludes you as I've yet to read a thread where you are not constantly harping on the issue.
2,182 posted on 03/24/2002 9:51:41 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hattie McDaniel died without ever seeing a black woman win for Best Actress.

A whole lot of black folk have come and gone in this life without ever seeing another black person do a thing.

As long as we can make such statements, we still have a way to go.

Unless, of course, you believe that there are some things black people should not be allowed to do? Or that they are unable to accomplish?

2,183 posted on 03/24/2002 9:51:44 PM PST by Rose in RoseBear
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To: Diddle E. Squat
i know, i know... that Cary Grant and Alfred Hitchcock never won an Oscar really makes the whole thing questionable... but i still always have high hopes every year...
2,184 posted on 03/24/2002 9:52:01 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: nunya bidness

Everyone here needs to get over themselves.

You might not like who won (Halle, Denzel) but they won and the time they spent in the spotlight was theirs.

Can we still gripe about really horrendous dress choices and the apparent dearth of available hairdressers in Hollywood?


2,185 posted on 03/24/2002 9:52:41 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Sir Gawain
Go get 'em Gawain.
2,186 posted on 03/24/2002 9:53:30 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: AnnaZ
any watching Barbara Walters? too bad Sarah J. Parker is so liberal... she really came across as likeable... old fashioned, modest... her husband too...
2,187 posted on 03/24/2002 9:54:51 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: Sir Gawain
funny thing is, I didnt see one person on here say that Halle didnt deserve to win. It's the acceptance speech that bows down to the liberal leftist viewpoint on race and the view that somehow her Oscar validates black women as finally getting their due and throwing off the mystical yoke of oppression - her pathetic performance wasnt in the movie but in her acceptance speech. It was one Jessie would be proud of.

If mafree can reconcile that with being a conservative, then she should run for office.

2,188 posted on 03/24/2002 9:54:55 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Sir Gawain
Well, now ...

Pretend you're the policeman who stopped him driving 10 miles over the speed limit. What box will you check on your report when it asks for a description of the man driving the car?

2,189 posted on 03/24/2002 9:55:25 PM PST by Rose in RoseBear
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To: AnnaZ
You and your redheaded banana can do whatever you want.

I'll still carry the two of you over hot coals, yes they're hot, and deliver you to the SM In and Out in fine fashion.

Or as the short version warrants, "As you wish."

2,190 posted on 03/24/2002 9:56:35 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: latina4dubya

any watching Barbara Walters?


Oh no no... when Oscar's credits came on my TV went off. I, personally, can only take so much.

;^)


2,191 posted on 03/24/2002 9:57:23 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Rose in RoseBear
What box will you check on your report when it asks for a description of the man driving the car?

Thai African Indian American. They do have a box for that one, don't they?

2,192 posted on 03/24/2002 9:57:26 PM PST by oldvike
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To: lawgirl
Russell Crowe got totally screwed and as a very big fan of his, I am heartbroken. I think he definitely should have won.

Yes, I totally agree. RC should have won tonight. While LOTR was my choice for best movie, I am glad that ABM won, just because I thought RC was robbed of the oscar he deserved.

2,193 posted on 03/24/2002 9:57:26 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: christine11
"am i the only person who doesn't think halle is pretty? i don't like her looks at all!"

I second that. She is not attractive to me at all and never has been. And especially after the almost vulgar, over-dramatic grossout speech she did in her "win" tonight. She is just so fake. And then she carried the "disadvantaged oppressed black child" speech backstage. She's probably got at least 20 million in the bank from all the movies she's been cast in. I bet Sissy Spacek probably won more votes, but the "guilty-white-liberal" powers-that-be changed the winning name to the "vessel" and "trail-blazing history maker" Halle Berry. Sissy Spacek probably told the Academy to take her name out of consideration.

And all the guilty-white-liberal actors/actresses in the audience and their pained expressions trying to empathize with poor Sydney Poitier and Halle's "horrible" life as a multi-millionaire priveleged BUT black "African-American" actor.

Now as for most attractive woman tonight, I think Jennifer Connelly is gorgeous. And Marisa Tomei is beautiful as is Nicole Kidman.

2,194 posted on 03/24/2002 9:59:04 PM PST by 43for8
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Hey now, I'm pretty much in your corner(reread my previous posts if you doubt), and some of these posts do make me cringe. But this is 2002, not 1962, or even 1992. Halle is in a completely different world from Hattie. I could understand Sidney making that statement, but not Halle.
2,195 posted on 03/24/2002 9:59:56 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Restorer
She looks like a black woman and no one can deny that.

A great many people would deny it, if given the opportunity. She would not be classed as "black" in Brazil, certainly. In South Africa, under apartheid, she would have been a classic "colored." In black Africa, she would be considered an American, not an African, and would probably be thought of as white by most Africans.

I would be labeled similarly but both of us were born and raised in America, where racial classifications are a whole different ballgame. She doesn't seem to want to run from being Black and I know I don't.

You say she looks like a "black woman." I say, with I think a great deal more accuracy, that she looks like a beautiful blend of European and African ancestry, with the mix trending strongly towards the European side as far as features go. She is also obviously considerably closer to the extreme of "white" than the extreme of "black" in skin color.

Close doesn't cut it in this society- Halle is a Black woman and anyone with half a brain knows that the skin color, features and hair texture of Black people vary greatly. Halle is not white.

I have noticed something particularly fascinating about black TV shows and movies. Most of these shows are made by blacks, for blacks. Almost without exception, the woman in every couple is noticeably lighter in color and more "white" in features than the man. What do you think drives this phenomenon?

The persistent belief that "white" is somehow more desired, more pure. I'll never deny that a lot of Blacks feel that way- it's hard not to after a few hundred years of living in a society that says white is better and purer.

As far as gender goes, I see a lot of ads and shows featuring whites where the woman is paler than the man is too. She is often blonde and he is often brunette (tall, dark and handsome). I think that can be attributed to women being considered the "fairer" sex, as if that should refer to coloring.

2,196 posted on 03/24/2002 10:00:16 PM PST by mafree
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To: nunya bidness

Or as the short version warrants, "As you wish."

"Anybody want a peanut?"

Speaking of me 'n Red... did you see our latest collaboration?

Hope all is well.

xo


2,197 posted on 03/24/2002 10:00:57 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: AnnaZ
Amen, that had to be the sloppiest crew on average to ever attend. What's the deal with the makeup: either none, pancake, or mop-n-glow shine? Were they all that ugly even back in the '70's?
2,198 posted on 03/24/2002 10:02:26 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: AnnaZ
does anyone know how much time the Barbara WAWA special has left?
2,199 posted on 03/24/2002 10:02:27 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: AnnaZ; Askel5
You have passed the test. You referenced The Princess Bride in flying colors.

I did see your latest and I was damned proud to know the both of you.

Keep fighting the good fight and tell the sock salesmen in Venice I've got their number.

2,200 posted on 03/24/2002 10:05:01 PM PST by nunya bidness
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