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Israeli weapons bear an embarrassing label: made in USA
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | March 23 2002 | Paul McGeough

Posted on 03/23/2002 10:29:37 PM PST by Samir

British objections to the use of British-supplied weapons in Israel's latest military push against the Palestinians have focused new attention on the United States' reluctance to restrain Israel's use of the multi-billion-dollar, high-tech arms it sells to the Jewish state each year.


The US is embarrassed by the high profile given to some of its machinery in the occupied territories - particularly its F-16 fighter jets, in missile strikes against police stations and other public buildings, and its Apache attack helicopters, in Israel's controversial campaign to assassinate Palestinian militants.

But the Administration has refused to go public with its growing unease over the use of US weaponry, in what the UN Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, now calls an "all-out conventional war" on Palestinian civilians.

But last week Britain revealed that in 2000 it had extracted a written assurance from Israel that no military equipment originating from Britain would be used in the occupied territories. The revelation was sparked when a British diplomat stationed in the Middle East recognised an Israeli armoured personnel carrier as a modified Centurion tank, which Britain had supplied to Israel up until 1970.



Now Britain is demanding an explanation from the Israelis. Last year an unnamed US State Department spokesman told The Independent in London that at some point Washington would have to make a call on whether the Israelis were in breach of a stipulation in the Arms Export Control Act that weapons sold could be used only for "legitimate self-defence" - but yesterday a department spokeswoman would not tell the Herald if the issue had advanced.

Israel is one of the biggest buyers of US arms, and much of the trade is financed with the $US2 billion a year it gets from Washington in military aid. Its arsenal includes dozens of US helicopters (AH 64As, AH 1Fs, AH 1Gs); hundreds of tanks (M-60s) and armoured personnel carriers; and the biggest fleet of American fighter aircraft outside the US (F-15s, F-16s, F-4s and A-4s).

A US-based lobby group, the Palestinian Monitor, says the US should act against Israel because of its "consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognised human rights" and, in particular, killings carried out by its airborne assassination squads.

However, the argument that the US was refusing to put pressure on Israel over its treatment of Palestinians was laughed at by one of the US's top authorities on the Israeli military, Anthony Cordesman, of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies.

Told by the Herald about the assurance won from Israel by the British, he said: "Someone has to be joking. This kind of contract clause is a joke in the weapons trade. If you think you can tightly control weapons after you have sold them, then you're living in fantasy land ...

"People in this trade make a lot of promises for face-saving purposes. There are provisions in international law on not using weapons on civilians, but defining civilians in a low-level war like this one can be an academic exercise."



But on the ground, the Israeli choice of US weapons does make a difference. After the Israelis launched a US-built TOW missile in a helicopter attack on a Gaza police station last year, a staff member who survived confronted an American visitor. "This is what your country is doing," he said, holding up a part of the missile carrying the words "made in the USA".

He reportedly went on: "We hate the Israelis for this ... but we hate America more."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britishfriends; israel; miltech; palestine; usa; weaponry; zionist
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Israel has used AGM 114-D air-to-ground rocket made by Boeing and Lockheed-Martin in Florida fired from Apache helicopters and AGM 114-C made in Georgia to kill innocent civilians in Palestine.

I submit this in hopes of adding to the discussion on this forum.
1 posted on 03/23/2002 10:29:37 PM PST by Samir
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To: Askel5;Illbay;ex-snook;Postal Worker with a gun;MACD;The Documentary Lady
It is my hope that you may find this of some interest.
2 posted on 03/23/2002 10:31:22 PM PST by Samir
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Just out of curiosity, just who makes the plastique the Palestinians use to blow up Israeli pizza parlors and buses? You know the ones that kill all those innocent Israeli civilians? Why don't the tough Jihadists try their hand at a military target once in awhile?
3 posted on 03/23/2002 10:35:44 PM PST by Kozak
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"Dear Madams/Sirs,
You sold these things to us, remember? They are ours and not yours.

Get over it"

4 posted on 03/23/2002 10:41:14 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Samir
Isreal does make their own tanks

Not that it means anything, Chevy (and other businesses) cannot tell someone else how to use a vehicle after its been purchased because the company no longer owns it.

5 posted on 03/23/2002 10:42:39 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Samir
Wow, you must really hate the AWACS Israel sold to India this week.

Wait till they sell India the patriot missile.

7 posted on 03/23/2002 10:45:23 PM PST by Nachum
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I submit this in hopes of adding to the discussion on this forum.

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No you don't. You are just spewing the same propaganda that Islamic websites do. It upsets you when Jews can fight back against the Islamic Jihad. You like the disarmed Jews of WW2 far better. Israel has a very good weapons industry and uses mostly ones manufactured at home.

9 posted on 03/23/2002 10:46:50 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Nachum
Not the patriot, I think its called the Arrow or something =o)
10 posted on 03/23/2002 10:47:09 PM PST by GeronL
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He reportedly went on: "We hate the Israelis for this ... but we hate America more."

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And they hate themselves the most. Islam is the way of Jihad and misery.

11 posted on 03/23/2002 10:49:33 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Samir
Doesn't embarrass me a bit. If I knew something I helped design was used to "do" Arafat and his thugs, that would just make my month.
12 posted on 03/23/2002 10:50:39 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Samir
Every terrorist Israel kills makes us safer. This is a good thing IMHO.
14 posted on 03/23/2002 10:52:52 PM PST by weikel
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Israeli weapons bear an embarrassing label: made in USA

Funny...not a single word about the M-16 (and variants) rifles I've seen in a number
of newspaper photos being held (and shot in the air) by Palestinians.

The Palestinians appear to be no fools. They have made a wise choice in tossing the
AK-47 aside so that they can use the .223 round and shred more flesh of women and
children at pizza parlors.
15 posted on 03/23/2002 10:55:44 PM PST by VOA
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To: Samir
In reading the news article you've posted, a wonderment has come to mind:

Why should the words "Made in the USA" on a missle fragment be an embarasment ?

16 posted on 03/23/2002 11:01:34 PM PST by JFoxbear
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I submit this in hopes of adding to the discussion on this forum.

Attention FReepers! A pro-terrorist is in our midst! (Unfortunately this is not news, despite the heroic efforts of the moderators)

17 posted on 03/23/2002 11:02:46 PM PST by eclectic
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To: Samir
The war could END NOW if both sides would stop killing each other. Sorry to disappoint you but I am not ashamed that weapons made in the U.S.A. are used by Isrealis to defend their children.
18 posted on 03/23/2002 11:02:57 PM PST by dubl-00
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To: Kozak
Game, set, and match to Kozak.
19 posted on 03/23/2002 11:05:45 PM PST by Harp
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To: Samir
FEAR This - "Made in USA"
20 posted on 03/23/2002 11:07:44 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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