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All U.S. Non-Essential Personnel Ordered out of Pakistan
MSNBC ^ | March 22, 2002 | Alex Witt

Posted on 03/22/2002 9:54:14 AM PST by codebreaker

Just announced all U.S. non-emergency personnel to evacuate.

No official government statement yet.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pak; rats; southasialist; taliban; us
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To: ex-snook
Sorry. You got to be kidding.

No, I am not kidding. I am very serious.

Our global presence has made us hated throughout the world except those on our dole of aid or troops.

I respectfully disagree. America is the most admired country in the world.

1. The students at Tianamen quoted Patrick Henry and created a miniture version of the Statue of Liberty.

2. The government of Taiwan established their constitution mostly on the American constitution.

3. People I know in Asia, Latin America, and even the Middle East have great respect for America.

It is sometimes "fashionable" to be anti-american but they actually like America. Some of the resentment stems from the fact the Americans tend to belittle other countries. Some of their resentment is the fact the America is so young and yet so powerful.

If the world hated America, then people from all corners of the world would not be trying to come here.

We all calling our citizens home

Yes, it is normal for a country to downgrade their staff during a crisis. This has nothing to do with having a global presence unless you believe the US shouldn't have embassies around the world.

we have established a Home Defense entity

I tend to believe the Homeland Defense Department is more related to calming the fears of Americans than actually engaging in any useful homeland defesne.

we have a budget to fight one war

Yes, a budget to fight one large war. I would much rather have that large war far away from our shore than on our doorstep. If Ronald Reagan had let the USSR expand communism from Nicaragua to Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Grenada and Panama then America would have been much less secure.

we have exported essential factories

Yes, the US is a service economy. We are still a manufacturing powerhouse, but we will continue to move toward a service economy. Countries without a global miliary reach has moved from an Agriculural to a Manufacturing to a Service economy.

we would have to import steel for arnaments from China or Korea

There's also lots of steel plants in India and Venezuela. Nevertheless, the market will adjust if Asia doesn't sell their steel anymore.

we are fearful of countries without planes that use our own planes to knock down our buildings or nuke us.

I would be much more fearful if the US did not maintain a military infrastructure to attack anybody at anytime.

Our 'global presence' is a total f-up. George Washington was right (and Pat Buchanan) - end foreign entanglements

The oceans don't protect America like they did in Washington's day. If the US withdraws from Asia and other parts of the world, the power vacuum would possibly be filled by governments that are hostile toward the United States. God help us if the US ever stopped being a beacon of hope for freedom and democracy around the world.

81 posted on 03/22/2002 11:44:01 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: P8riot
Musharraf just cannot wait to get to his retirement home outside Boston, but I doubt he ever sets eyes on it in this life.
82 posted on 03/22/2002 11:46:10 AM PST by crystalk
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To: codebreaker
Great!!! Fox News just put out an alert! Four Pakistanis - one is on the "Terrorist Watch List". Subjects given a written temp by INS to leave ship in Norfolk, Virginia. Now discovered that they 'failed " to return to ship. Another INS screw-up!
84 posted on 03/22/2002 11:48:43 AM PST by lawdog
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To: codebreaker
bump
85 posted on 03/22/2002 12:01:20 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: Tai_Chung
Yo, P, that was a fabulous reply!
86 posted on 03/22/2002 12:14:59 PM PST by Kay
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To: codebreaker
Here are my guesses: 1. With the Pearl trial coming up and most likely a conviction, US would want everyone that is not essential out of Pakistan. No use giving Paki's someone to shoot or kidnap. 2. They found biological lab in mountains in Afganistan - most likely getting all non-essentials out of area just in case. 3. With all non-essentials out of area, most likely bombing will begin at Afgan/Paki border and maybe inside Pakistan too. 4. I don't think this has anything to do with India at this time.
87 posted on 03/22/2002 12:50:13 PM PST by BuckeyeOhio
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To: codebreaker
Except for the press guy who picks up the gun in the new Mel Gibson Vietnam movie..

IT TOOK HIM WAY TOO LONG TO PICK IT UP.....I would have shot him at the beginning.
88 posted on 03/22/2002 1:41:55 PM PST by Vinomori
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To: Vinomori
Good one, you sound like Sam Elliot.
89 posted on 03/22/2002 1:55:13 PM PST by codebreaker
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To: Tai_Chung
"If the US withdraws from Asia and other parts of the world, the power vacuum would possibly be filled by governments that are hostile toward the United States."

Oh well, guess we will just have to bomb them all. Who should we shart with - Russia, China, Korea, all the Arabs?

You sound like a good man but I think you are mistaking our past from our present. People want to come here for the almighty dollar and keep their own cultural identity. Our only hope to not end up like other 'world empires' in the trash bin of history, is to build fortress America and encourage all those people who want to be Americans to come here. We don't have to be in their countries to achieve success.

90 posted on 03/22/2002 2:03:21 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: Tai_Chung
Maybe you'll have to vacation in your back yard.

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman

Worldwide Caution
March 17, 2002

The U.S. Government continues to receive credible reports that extremist individuals are planning additional terrorist actions against U.S. interests. Such actions may be imminent and include suicide operations. We have no further information on specific targets, timing or method of attack. We remind American citizens to remain vigilant with regard to their personal security and to exercise caution.

Terrorist groups do not distinguish between official and civilian targets. The March 17 attack on worshippers at the Protestant International Church in Islamabad underlines the growing possibility that as security is increased at official U.S. facilities, terrorists and their sympathizers will seek softer targets. These may include facilities where Americans are generally known to congregate or visit, such as clubs, restaurants, places of worship, schools or outdoor recreation events. Americans should increase their security awareness when they are at such locations, avoid them, or switch to other locations where Americans in large numbers generally do not congregate. American citizens may be targeted for kidnapping. In late January 2002, an American journalist was kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan.

U.S. Government facilities worldwide remain at a heightened state of alert. These facilities may on occasion temporarily close or suspend public services to review their security posture and ensure its adequacy. In those instances, U.S. Embassies and Consulates will make every effort to provide emergency services to American citizens. Americans are urged to monitor the local news and maintain contact with the nearest American Embassy or Consulate.

The Department will continue to develop information about potential threats to Americans overseas and to share with them credible threat information through its Consular Information Program documents. These documents are available on the Internet at http://travel.state.gov. In addition to information on the Internet, U.S. travelers may hear recorded information by calling the Department of State in Washington, D.C. at 202-647-5225 from their touch-tone telephone, or receive information by automated telefax by dialing 202-647-3000 from their fax machine.

This Public Announcement - Worldwide Caution supersedes the previous Worldwide Caution of February 1, 2002 to note the imminent threat of terrorist actions which may target civilians and include suicide operations. This Public Announcement - Worldwide Caution expires on August 17, 2002.

Department of State travel information and publications are available at Internet address: http://travel.state.gov. U.S. travelers may hear recorded information by calling the Department of State in Washington, D.C. at 202-647-5225 from their touchtone telephone, or receive information by automated telefax by dialing 202-647-3000 from their fax machine.

91 posted on 03/22/2002 2:07:54 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: McGruff
Maybe things are going to start heating up!

We can only hope.
Obviously something is going on.

92 posted on 03/22/2002 2:39:40 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: slimer
I like to dance with a moose.

Fox Trot or the Waltz?
93 posted on 03/22/2002 3:50:28 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Tai_Chung
Thanks Tai, someone needed to set "Snookums" straight!! You did a great job!
But I'll bet his head is still in the sand.
94 posted on 03/22/2002 4:37:29 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: cmsgop
Fox Trot or the Waltz?

The Moose Mamba

95 posted on 03/22/2002 5:02:02 PM PST by slimer
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To: ladyinred
Holy Week and Passover are coming very, very soon...
96 posted on 03/23/2002 5:14:37 AM PST by DC native
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