If You Support or Sign Unconstitional Legislation, You are a Traitor

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[Sir Gawain]

The time has passed for allowing the desecration of the U.S. Constitution to continue. There are traitors among us. There are politicians right now who would make themselves kings if there were means to do it, and their attack on the spirit of our country is no longer cloaked in secrecy. Now is not the time to say, "How did we get here?" Now is the time to say, "How do we get back to where we should be?" Make no mistake—we as Americans are to blame for repeatedly voting these traitors into office—and now it is our duty to fix what we screwed up.

I will vote for politicians with which I do not agree one hundred percent, however, I will NOT vote for any politician that is diametrically opposed to any principle of the Founding Fathers. What would George Washington or Thomas Jefferson think of the attacks on the Second Amendment, and now the attack on the First with this so-called "campaign finance reform"? What would the Founders think of Americans that continuously voted these traitors into office? Who would have dared approach President Washington with a bill attempting to regulate firearms or speech, or any other God-given freedom?

Here is the list of treasonous bastards that voted for CFR:

From the Senate:

YEAs --- 60
Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carnahan (D-MO) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Cleland (D-GA) Clinton (D-NY) Cochran (R-MS) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Corzine (D-NJ) Daschle (D-SD) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT)	Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Durbin (D-IL) Edwards (D-NC) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Fitzgerald (R-IL) Graham (D-FL) Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT)	Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) McCain (R-AZ) Mikulski (D-MD) Miller (D-GA) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stabenow (D-MI) Thompson (R-TN) Torricelli (D-NJ) Warner (R-VA) Wellstone (D-MN) Wyden (D-OR)
From the House:	--- AYES    240 ---
Abercrombie	Green (TX)	Napolitano
Ackerman	Greenwood	Neal
Allen	Grucci	Oberstar
Andrews	Gutierrez	Obey
Baca	Hall (OH)	Olver
Baird	Harman	Ortiz
Baldacci	Hastings (FL)	Osborne
Baldwin	Hill	Ose
Barrett	Hinchey	Owens
Bass	Hinojosa	Pallone
Becerra	Hoeffel	Pascrell
Bentsen	Holden	Pastor
Bereuter	Holt	Payne
Berkley	Honda	Pelosi
Berman	Hooley	Petri
Berry	Horn	Phelps
Bishop	Houghton	Platts
Blagojevich	Hoyer	Pomeroy
Blumenauer	Inslee	Price (NC)
Boehlert	Israel	Quinn
Bonior	Jackson (IL)	Ramstad
Bono	Jackson-Lee (TX)	Rangel
Borski	Jefferson	Reyes
Boswell	John	Rivers
Boyd	Johnson (CT)	Rodriguez
Brady (PA)	Johnson (IL)	Roemer
Brown (FL)	Johnson, E. B.	Ros-Lehtinen
Brown (OH)	Jones (OH)	Ross
Capito	Kanjorski	Rothman
Capps	Kaptur	Roybal-Allard
Capuano	Kennedy (RI)	Rush
Cardin	Kildee	Sabo
Carson (IN)	Kilpatrick	Sanchez
Carson (OK)	Kind (WI)	Sanders
Castle	Kirk	Sandlin
Clay	Kleczka	Sawyer
Clayton	Kucinich	Schakowsky
Clement	LaFalce	Schiff
Clyburn	Lampson	Serrano
Condit	Langevin	Shays
Conyers	Lantos	Sherman
Costello	Larsen (WA)	Simmons
Coyne	Larson (CT)	Skelton
Cramer	LaTourette	Slaughter
Crowley	Leach	Smith (MI)
Cummings	Lee	Smith (WA)
Davis (CA)	Levin	Snyder
Davis (FL)	Lewis (GA)	Solis
Davis (IL)	LoBiondo	Spratt
DeFazio	Lofgren	Stark
DeGette	Lowey	Stenholm
Delahunt	Lucas (KY)	Strickland
DeLauro	Luther	Stupak
Deutsch	Lynch	Tanner
Dicks	Maloney (CT)	Tauscher
Dingell	Maloney (NY)	Taylor (MS)
Doggett	Markey	Thompson (CA)
Dooley	Mascara	Thune
Doyle	Matheson	Thurman
Edwards	Matsui	Tierney
Engel	McCarthy (MO)	Towns
Eshoo	McCarthy (NY)	Turner
Etheridge	McCollum	Udall (CO)
Evans	McDermott	Udall (NM)
Farr	McGovern	Upton
Fattah	McHugh	Velazquez
Ferguson	McIntyre	Visclosky
Filner	McKinney	Walsh
Foley	McNulty	Wamp
Ford	Meehan	Waters
Frank	Meek (FL)	Watson (CA)
Frelinghuysen	Meeks (NY)	Watt (NC)
Frost	Menendez	Waxman
Ganske	Millender-McDonald	Weiner
Gephardt	Miller, George	Weldon (PA)
Gilchrest	Mink	Wexler
Gilman	Moore	Wolf
Gonzalez	Moran (VA)	Woolsey
Gordon	Morella	Wu
Graham	Nadler	Wynn

And finally, if it is signed:

President George W. Bush

Article VI of the U.S Constitution states:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is pissing on the graves of the Founding Fathers.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is pissing on the graves of the Revolutionary War veterans that fought and died for the dream that is embodied in the Constitution.

Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is a traitor, and should be dealt with as such.

Thomas Jefferson:
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground; That `all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people.' To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition." Thomas Jefferson: Opinion, February 15, 1791

"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p 322

George Washington, The Man Who Could Have Been King

[Lumberjack]

Tell me, why did old West card players carry Derringers?

Cheat at the game, pay the price.

Hypothetical observation, of course.

[SERE_DOC]

The politicians have been doing this crap for 40 years, not just Dems or Repubs ALL of them. the ruling class don't give a damn about us, they talk a good line, but the end result is the same.

You may have a few above the fray but they go away early. the traitors have always been there and they keep getting reelected by stupid people, and you want to know what else, WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET.

[Travis McGee]

Good rant, but the tank is going to roll over us anyway.

[MarkWar]

>Anyone that supports or signs unconstitutional legislation is a traitor...

Well, when the Palestinians suspect one of their own of working with the Israelis, they kill them and drag them through the streets behind a vehicle...

It's simply a practical matter.

(1) Traitors are people who get punished. (2) Nobody in the US is going to punish these politicians. (3) Therefore these politicians are not traitors.

It's as easy as 1-2-3.

The bottom line seems to be that America now is a very different place than it was 200 years ago and living in the past is only cool if you're Jethro Tull.

Mark W.

[d14truth]

Buckley v. Valeo - 1976

How many times must men of government rule on the Constitution? The 'Constitution' is to lay out our rule over government.

Government out of control is no government at all. Ask Arafat.

[Phantom Lord]

Someone emailed Neal Boortz with an idea. A 3 strikes law for politicians. Every time a politician votes for, or a governor or President signs, a piece of legislation that is ruled by the courts to be unconstitutional they get a strike. The strikes are cummulative for their entire "career." And the instant that someone gets their third strike they are instantly removed from office.

Would take a constitutional amendment no doubt, but would be interesting to see debate on the matter.

[Bigun]

...the damn thing isn't worth the paper its written on when 9 people, accountable to no one, are the final arbiters of its meaning.

EXACTLY CORRECT! That is precicely why all 435 congressmen, 100 Senators, and the President, are REQUIRED to swear an oath of true faith and allegiance to the Constitution EVERY time they are sworn in!

The FOUNDERS idea was that, for the most part, those nine folks would be BORED STIFF because ALL of those would be taking care to ensure that legislative assaults on the Constitution DID NOT OCCUR!!

[Bigun]

The 'Constitution' is to lay out our rule over government.

The Constitution is SUPPOSED to be the "Rule Book" of government!

Either it is or it isn't! There IS no middle ground IMHO!

[Wolfie]

Was that the Founder's idea? Coulda fooled me.

[Bigun]

If not then what IS the purpose of their Oaths???

[1stFreedom]

I disagree.

Maybe on paper it makes one a traitor, but it's time for a "reality check."

1. The democrats are masters at demonizing, and the public buys much of it. This non-issue can be easily turned into an election issue this fall. Why give the dems something to pound the repubs over the head with?

2. As with many issues, it's easier to spew out deceitful ideas than to defend the truth. Abortion is a perfect example. It's so hard to reach people when they have bought the simple idea of "choice." This goes for CFR. Anyone that has donated to a non-profit (church, humane society, etc) group is part of a special interest, yet the public doesn't get this. They have bought into the myth that special interest groups are just a bunch of rich people and corporations.

3. It's a set up. Many, many people hate corporations for whatever reason (usually it's jealousy of the amount of money the CEO's make). If one doesn't vote for CFR, then one can be painted as a friend of big business. Repubs already have problems with this, and this will be salt on a wound if this idea is enforced.

Why aren't the repubs tratiors? Well, consider the situation. This country is nowhere near what it's supposed to be. Ya got a Supreme Court out of control, a congress that holds itself above others (no social security tax, etc), etc. The public is very "me" oriented and has socialistic tendancies.

This ship is slowly sinking. The dems are helping it to sink through deceit, lies, and ignorance [of the public]. If the repubs filibuster and refuse to try and dump water, the dems will just point out that repubs are actually the cause of the ship sinking! The repubs have to do what they have to do survive. If they put prinicple above trying to save the ship, the ship is gonna sink real fast, and you and I will be living in a communist / socialist state (we aren't really there yet).

I understand why they voted the way they did. It makes it a non-issue (aside from those who know this bill stinks) and gives the repubs one less issue to deal with this fall. This will make it easier to win back the Senate. THEN we can fill the courts up with conservative judges and help to stop the ship from sinking. If they are in the majority again, then they can introduce real cfr billto fix the flawed one! (like one dealing with union dues!)

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

If You Support or Sign Unconstitional Legislation, You are a Traitor

Nice rant, but do you really want every congresscritter who votes for a law that the SCOTUS declares unconstitutional, or any President who signs such a law to be put to death for treason. I don't think so!

[Non-Sequitur]

You claim the right to interpret the Constitution. Maybe you need to read it first. Article III, Section 3, Clause 1:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

This action doesn't even come close to qualifying.

[Sir Gawain]

or in adhering to their Enemies

That would be enemies of the Constitution both foreign and domestic.

[foreverfree]

bump

[lugsoul]

Actually, your comment shows that you clearly do not understand the countermajoritarian aspect of the Constitution. If you were correct and "we the people" decide what is and is not constitutional, "period," then you have just relegated us to pure democracy - a form of government that this nation has never had and never should have. We are a constitutional republic, with checks and balances and judicial review. And whether something is constitutional is determined by constitutional procedures, not the assertions of "we the people."

[Lumberjack]

Your comments show that you clearly are unable to read into my comments. Our ultimate veto is the 2nd Amendment, its our trump card, its the way we keep the nation from falling into Tyranny. If the Congress legislated tomorrow that we could burn Jews in their homes, and the President signed it and the SCOTUS upheld that law, how much do your legalistic wranglings matter? They wouldn't.

People falling back on the 2nd amendment, however, would provide quite a check on that law though, wouldn't it?

Understand now?

[lugsoul]

Is it your contention that if a group of citizens overthrew the government in an armed uprising - assuming, of course, that the arms that these citizens bear according to their second amendment rights are sufficient to trump the rather considerable arms possessed by the gov't - because that group of armed citizens disagreed with an interpretation of the constitutionality of a law made by any or all of the branches of the government in accordance with constitutional procedures - THAT would be a "constitutional" manner of properly interpreting that law? No sir, that would be a coup d'etat. If you want to exercise the power of citizenship, vote the bastards that passed the law out of office and elect some bastards who will uphold the constitution. But don't tell me that I can live with your interpretation at the business end of your gun barrel. That would be a rather Maoist approach to things, dontcha think?

[Lumberjack]

Try reading some Jefferson and get back to me when you actually understand the intent of the 2nd Amendment. It was meant to be a tool for arming all available men to serve in the militia and also to be a check on a government that thought it could abuse its citizens. The FF's were quite clear on this.

"My particular interpretation"? So I just imagined that I had a right to free speech?

Like I said, get out of the law books and read some of the words of the Founding Fathers in regards to the 2nd Amendment. And I appologize in advance if they scare you as much as my words have.