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Parents drug use, sex lives steal focus: (Van Dam's reveal intimate details, more questions arise!)
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| March 16, 2002
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Posted on 03/16/2002 12:09:40 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Jaded
Given the lengthy sets of rules FresnoDA just posted, now I'm wondering if they were "swingers" in the literal sense or just plain "sluts and mutts"?
To: FresnoDA
Gee, I wonder if people did this kind of stuff when I was young?! Back then, the term "swing" meant a kind of jazz dancing ... Like "Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye!"
God help us!
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To: spectre
She continued that charade on the witness stand, claiming she didn't know his name--all the while calling him "Dave," indicating a greater degree of familiarity. (And remember, she sold him cookies: she had to have had a name for that.)
To: Mrs.Liberty
Uuumm...I don't have time to read all of these swinging guidelines. COuld you consolidate them into "Swinging For Dummies" or Swinging Cliff Notes?
Mrs. Liberty-
Please Freepmail me a picture and an address I'll be in contact with you :-)
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posted on
03/16/2002 3:21:51 PM PST
by
Drango
To: Mrs.Liberty
"Swinging For Dummies" LOL!
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To: Mrs.Liberty; registered
"COuld you consolidate them into "Swinging For Dummies" or Swinging Cliff Notes?"Omigawsh, there really is such a thing as falling out of a chair from laughing too hard! This just proved it! (ouch!)
To: FresnoDA
Emotional attachment is a problem when you start to "fall in love". I pondered the thought that Brenda is "in love" with a third party we don't know about yet.
This could explain her apparent coldness towards DW and her denial that she ever danced with him. To hear her discuss their meeting at Dads night of Feb. 1st is like someone describing the disspation of a smoke cloud - Westerfield sounded like a wallflower she had no interest in. To admit she was interested in him would endanger her secret relationship. Brenda is not happy with Damon, and is looking for another man - a man who excites her because he dominates her, (and who is probably rich). Is this man possibly an important figure in the underworld?
Sorry for more thinking outside of the box, but this case really troubles me.
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posted on
03/16/2002 3:37:53 PM PST
by
Kerensky
To: stixnstones
Hi there, another thing that they may be hiding, according to a one of the millions of posts elsewhere about this, is that evidentally the police found a small amount of cocaine in the house... Yes, the locked garage does not keep in the marijuana smoke, but can prevent the eyes of children from observing lines of coke being consumed, as well as other drug taking methods.
I'm beginning to think that drugs, not sex, is the major reason for the locked garage. Except in the summer, it can be too cold for sex outside, even in sunny southern california.
Illegal drugs means they are lawbreakers, and are having encounters with the underworld. Given Brenda's dominant personality, it would seem likely she would want to turn a pleasure into a profit.
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posted on
03/16/2002 3:48:10 PM PST
by
Kerensky
To: edskid
family-sized pack of crab lice
That would go great with the Dominos
{SABRE SWING} 60" ORGY-FEED SPECIAL
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posted on
03/16/2002 3:54:50 PM PST
by
FresnoDA
To: golitely
Would Damon have considered it cheating if the missus was having an affair with Westerfield on her own, leaving Damon out of the fun and games? Let's not forget that one of the questions asked during the Preliminary was "have you and Damon discussed divorice in the last 12 months"? Even though it was over-ruled I got the impression that they had discussed divorice. I don;t think swinging couples stay together anyway.
To: Mrs.Liberty;Registered
"Swinging For Dummies" LOL!!!
Here you go...as asked for...the latest edition of Swinging for Dummies!!
SWINGING FOR DUMMIES - THE BOOK
DVD: "Yeah, there are a lot of rules...but we believe in the KISS program.
Kinky Individuals Shall Suffice!!"
BVD: "And a little Maui-Wowie doesn't hurt either!"
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posted on
03/16/2002 3:59:20 PM PST
by
FresnoDA
To: FresnoDA
I'm beginning to think that drugs, not sex, is the major reason for the locked garage. Except in the summer, it can be too cold for sex outside, even in sunny southern california. I think it's been established with the meeting of Barbara and Damon that sex is probably not confined to the garage. I expect there is a lock on the master bedroom door (there is on ours!). The sex story and even the admission of pot use is a useful givaway that provides a smoke screen.
It appears more clearly now that these people are druggies...note the restlessness of Damon after a puff of pot and three beers and pizza...indigestion or cocaine?
I wonder if Damon's upcoming trip to Italy had anything to do with making a connection with drug traffickers.
Would his expertise in cell phone technology provide him with a marketable skill in that underworld?
FRESNODA: at the end of the last pretrial hearing, did they say that Barbara Easton was not availale as a witness because she was in Europe???
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:01:48 PM PST
by
Kerensky
To: Kerensky
I pondered the thought that Brenda is "in love" with a third party we don't know about yet.
There is strong indication that that third-party is Barb Eastman....could it be that Brenda and Damon are jealous over the same SWINGER....
If this is the case, then that is a major rule violation of the Swingers Handbook, See section 69, paragraph B above.
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:05:10 PM PST
by
FresnoDA
To: golitely
Sounds like that evening Brenda wanted "swing" with another woman. Maybe she told Dave he could join the party...but not in the way Westerfield wanted to, if you get my drift. Westerfield may have turned the whole thing down. He wasn't there, and most people are assuming he wasn't invited, but was he?
I may be going out on a limb here, but it would be fair to hear what the accused and already convicted David Westerfield has to say about that evening. (sarcasm mode off).
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:06:48 PM PST
by
spectre
To: FresnoDA
There is strong indication that that third-party is Barb Eastman....could it be that Brenda and Damon are jealous over the same SWINGER.... Interesting - yet DW wanted to meet Barbara and I assume Denise and Keith wanted to meet Barbara, and Brenda at least played the role of the gracious hostess in making the introductions...
I think Brenda's secret lover could be a powerful, swarthy, drug kingpin with an accent...
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:08:34 PM PST
by
Kerensky
To: FresnoDA
I saw the fabulous Rick Roberts on MSNBC today, and he says he knows even worse things about the VDs, but that it wouldn't help anyone to tell it now (I Suppose meaning it can't help Danielle now). He said it will all come out if this goes to trial though.
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:10:33 PM PST
by
Lanza
To: FresnoDA
Section 69? YOU are a hoot, FDA!
sw
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:10:56 PM PST
by
spectre
To: golitely
From her testimony, it seemed that when she "met" him while selling GS cookies and then discovered his penchant for adult activities, she immediately called DVD (from W's house?) to express her surprise at the coincidence. "You'll never believe this, but DAVE likes to have adult parties, too." Why would she call him Dave to her husband, with him knowing exactly to whom she was referring, if that was the first time she had found out his name? Doesn't wash.
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:15:43 PM PST
by
shezza
To: shezza;Lanza;golitely
Nothing the van Dams have said is consistent. Down to the smallest detail about how far one large Dominoes pizza can go between 3 hungry children and two adults, followed by the adult "finishing off the pizza" party in the A.M. Kick that one around.
So ole Rick Roberts says there is more to come about the vile and disgusting van Dams? Can't imagine how much worse it can get...??
Maybe if Westerfield is involved in the poor childs demise, so were others?
sw
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:23:32 PM PST
by
spectre
To: Kerensky
I can't recall!!! LOLSeriously, not sure, I was in a flame war near the end of the second BVD depo...so I missed some things.....LOL..
You know, strength and honor, can't let "lil'kim" get away with apologist stuff...I will investigate...
Man, you guys have me on all types of homework assignments....
FDA
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posted on
03/16/2002 4:24:29 PM PST
by
FresnoDA
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