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To: bang_list; Travis McGee; Darth Sidious;nunya bidness;coloradan;wardaddy;Squantos;harpseal
The cover-up continues.

I wounder if President Bush is "madder than heck" about this, like he was when one of his Royal Guards was kicked a commercial airliner?

4 posted on 03/15/2002 6:25:23 AM PST by Mulder
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Hodgson said he received calls from Sam Wichner, firearms instructor for the Baltimore office, and from Jim Ellis, a supervisor in the Calverton office, which reports to the Baltimore field office.

I like this Hodgson [ex-FBI] guy.

Mulder, did you notice how this article conveniently left the shooter's name out? For the record, he is Christopher Baga, age 35.

8 posted on 03/15/2002 6:39:34 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Mulder; Travis McGee; Lurker; squantos; noumenon ; Abundy; one_particular_harbour
Sam Wichner, firearms instructor for the Baltimore office, and from Jim Ellis, a supervisor in the Calverton office, which reports to the Baltimore field office.

Clearly we have two more agents who need to be off the Federal Payroll and possibly facing obstruction of justice charges. I will not at this time review all the things apparently bad with this shooting but suffice to say Christopher Braga needs to be facing a criminal court date based upon what has been admitted by the FBI already.

Hodgson said that Wichner warned him that he would "end up looking pretty silly" once the shooting was ruled justified. In the call from Ellis, Hodgson said, he was told that he would be blocked from social interaction with his former FBI colleagues and friends if he worked on this case. Hodgson said it was Ellis who warned, "There's no middle ground on this thing. You're either with us or against us."

Now we have two more names of rogue agents. They are rogue agents because they are seeking to intimidate citizebs, in this case a former FBI agent. If they will do that to a former agent with presumably many contacts within the agency what will they do to a citizen who has no such contacts? These armed federal agents have clearly adopted a truth be damned us versus them attitude and anyone who is not one of their cronies with the FBI is one of them. They have crossed the line that separates law enforcement from a thug squad exemplified by such organizations as the Gestapo and Stasi.

For those recording the names of enemies of our Constitution I would suggest that these two be added to the list. Remember they turn on one of their own merely for seeking the truth. If it were a "clean shoot" why would they need to discourage any probe into the matter? If it were a "clean shoot" they should be willing to help anyone probing into the matter.

The FBI is supposed to be are top of the line Law Enforcement agency yet they are doing their best to imitate a Third world secret police operation at least in this case. The fact that these agents would even consider making such threats to a former agent means that their supervisors are at best incompetent hacks. If the FBI does not start cleaning up its house the results for this nation are cataclysimic.

One of the facts of life to consider is that when the general populace faces a totally corrupt state wher ethere is no relif under all the other laws rule .308 is the next step. These agents may think that it will not apply to them but like everyone else they shop, they have their hobbies they park in parking lots. rule .308 is absolute and can be applied anywhereand at any time. They seem to be wanting to force the issue.

Stay well - stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

24 posted on 03/15/2002 7:32:06 AM PST by harpseal
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This happened in the back yard of about 20,000 Washington insiders. Pasadena might be a blue collar bedroom community halfway between Baltimore and Annapolis, but it's surrounded with enough million dollar waterfront properties that you have more than just a couple of highly placed civil servants and national media wheels living in the area thinking that this could have been their kid shot in the face.

My prediction stands. This ain't goin' the way of most FBI JBT shoots. Somebody's gonna get permanently sidelined, if not prosecuted to the fullest extent.

26 posted on 03/15/2002 7:36:30 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Mulder
>>I wounder if President Bush is "madder than heck" about this, like he was when one of his Royal Guards was kicked a commercial airliner?<<

Exactly! He probably sleeps like a baby.

81 posted on 03/15/2002 2:51:49 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Mulder
I wounder if President Bush is "madder than heck" about this, like he was when one of his Royal Guards was kicked a commercial airliner?

Of course not.This doesn't affect the Royals in any way. Questioning one of the Palace Guards is almost like questioning Royalty theirselves,and this can't be allowed.

209 posted on 03/17/2002 5:36:00 AM PST by sneakypete
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