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Tirades on steel tariffs
Washington Times ^ | 3/13/02

Posted on 03/12/2002 9:42:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:52:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Last week, the administration slapped tariffs of up to 30 percent on steel imports. The move has seriously tarnished President Bush's image as a free trader and must have been painful for Trade Representative Robert Zoellick to argue publicly. What is more, it will put a hefty burden on U.S. consumers, corporations and, eventually, taxpayers. Abroad, U.S. trading partners are fuming, and many have made clear, through statements and actions, that there will be consequences to Mr. Bush's decision. Although a trade war will only hurt consumers worldwide, Mr. Bush knew he risked international retaliation.


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KEYWORDS: michaeldobbs; steel; tariffs

1 posted on 03/12/2002 9:42:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Yes but PJB loves it.
2 posted on 03/12/2002 9:46:43 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bush's action's are a step in the right direction, but still inadequate due to inconsistancy.

The optimal solution is a relatively low, across-the-board revenue tariff of 10-20% on ALL imported goods from ALL foreign countries.

"Targeted" tariffs have the disadvantage of providing loopholes and, as others will be quick to point out, the potential to hurt other domestic industries.

A prime example is our failed embargo on the importation of Cuban goods. Cuban sugar has been routinely imported to the U.S. through the back door: Canada. Cuban sugar is shipped to Canada where it is dissolved in molasass. "Canadian" molasass is then legally imported to the U.S. where the sugar is easily refined back out. The leftover molasass is then exported back to Canada where the cycle is repeated. Large sugar-users (such as candy makers) are also closing their domestic factories and moving to Canada where they can legally use Cuban sugar, then import it as candy to the U.S.

An across-the-board revenue tariff of 10-20% would circumvent this type of abuse. Additionally, the revenue could be used to offset a major reduction or elimination of the corporate income tax, providing domestic producers a more "level playing field". (A Proposal to Abolish the Corporate Income Tax)

From a historical perspective, a revenue tariff of 10-20% is NOT excessive:

2000 National Productivity of Steel Production
Country
 Steel Production 
(million metric tons)
 Employment 
(thousands)
Productivity
(tons/employee)
Australia
8.5
21
404
Austria
5.7
12
475
Belgium
11.6
20
580
Brazil
27.9
63
443
Canada
16.6
56
296
Finland
4.1
8
512
France
21.0
37
567
Germany
46.4
77
602
Italy
26.7
39
684
Japan
106.4
197
540
Luxembourg
2.6
4
650
Netherlands
5.7
12
475
South Korea
43.1
57
756
Spain
15.8
22
718
Sweden
5.2
13
400
United Kingdom
15.2
29
524
United States
101.5
151
672

3 posted on 03/12/2002 9:48:37 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'd rather have a few unsold chickens scratching around the yard and some unhappy yuppies not getting to go to Europe than to have to depend on steel industries outside the U.S.
4 posted on 03/12/2002 9:51:43 PM PST by WFTR
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Europeans haven't minced their outrage.

I don't know why the Europeans are so upset. The protectionist USA has just screwed itself; the free trading EU stands to gain from the US mistake.

5 posted on 03/12/2002 10:13:46 PM PST by Cacophonous
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To: WFTR
I'd rather have a few unsold chickens scratching around the yard and some unhappy yuppies not getting to go to Europe than to have to depend on steel industries outside the U.S.

Nicely said; I'm with you.

6 posted on 03/12/2002 10:14:54 PM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
the free trading EU stands to gain from the US mistake.

No mistake on the U.S. part.
The EU only "free" trades among themselves.
They screw US at every opportunity.

7 posted on 03/12/2002 10:22:21 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Oh I know; my comment was tongue in cheek (if you have seen me post on here before, you know I am staunchly in your corner on this issue, Willie).

I was trying to get a rise out of the "free trade" cult.

8 posted on 03/12/2002 10:26:20 PM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
I was trying to get a rise out of the "free trade" cult.

Bravo!!!

I did get the impression that you were on "my" side from previous posts.
But you tossed me a little curveball on that one.
(plus - it's gettin' late and my reactions are off kilter!)

G'nite & take care!!!

9 posted on 03/12/2002 10:34:08 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: *"Free" Trade
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10 posted on 03/13/2002 9:06:03 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: WFTR
Only approximately a 1/4 of the steel consumed by US companies comes from outside the US, so you are hardly dependent on steel from foreign companies. You can get this information from the US Geological Survey for "Iron and Steel." For example, in 2001, the estimated net import reliance, as a percentage of consumption, was 15%.
11 posted on 03/14/2002 10:59:53 AM PST by Jeremy_Bentham
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To: Cacophonous
See post #11. On the other hand, 50% of the poultry imported into Russia comes from American farmers.
12 posted on 03/14/2002 11:01:26 AM PST by Jeremy_Bentham
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To: Jeremy_Bentham
Only approximately a 1/4 of the steel consumed by US companies comes from outside the US

So I would again ask: Why is the EU so upset about the steel tariffs if it affects them so little?

13 posted on 03/14/2002 2:01:14 PM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
Why is the EU so upset about the steel tariffs if it affects them so little?

The answer should be quite obvious. How upset, and why, they are, depends on what percentage steel exports are of their total exports, as to whether it effects them a little, or a great deal. I don't have those figures at present, but I should be able to locate them. The same with the US with regard to imports.

14 posted on 03/18/2002 2:57:22 PM PST by Jeremy_Bentham
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