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Buying and Selling [ White Babies $35,000...Black Babies Only $4,000 ]
ABC News Website ^ | 3-12-02 | Dean Schabner

Posted on 03/12/2002 1:26:04 PM PST by antaresequity

 

 When a couple seeking to adopt a white baby is charged $35,000 and a couple seeking a black baby is charged $4,000, the image that comes to the Rev. Ken Hutcherson's mind is of a practice that was outlawed in America nearly 150 years ago — the buying and selling of human beings

The practice, which is widespread among private adoption facilitators, of charging prospective parents different fees depending on the race or ethnicity of the child they adopt is one that Hutcherson is fighting to change from his Redmond, Wash., church. The Antioch Bible Church has established its own adoption agency, and is lobbying state legislators to change Washington's laws.

"I've got championship Rottweilers. I sell them by supply and demand," Hutcherson said. "I raise thoroughbred racehorses. I sell them by supply and demand. I'm not going to let people sell children by supply and demand. What's the difference between that and slavery?"

The campaign to change the law is directed at Washington state legislators, but Hutcherson said he would prefer to see the federal government step in and create one set of regulations governing adoption, rather than leaving the issue to the states to decide.

Current Washington law bans payments to a birth mother for placing a child for adoption, but does not address payments for arranging an adoption or the fees that may be charged.

"I think it's an issue that Americans have not looked at closely enough, because if they had, things wouldn't be the way they are," he said.

He hopes to get attention around Washington with a billboard campaign as soon as he can raise the $70,000 to $80,000 he needs. The billboards will feature a white baby, a latino baby and a black baby and next to each, the fees some adoption facilitators might charge for them: $35,000, $10,000 and $4,000.

He said that besides putting a price on children, the practice discriminates against white babies and people who seek to adopt them — an issue he said has been overlooked because white people, particularly those who can afford the high adoption fees charged, are not used to considering themselves victims of discrimination.

"I know about discrimination," said Hutcherson, who is black. "I don't care who it's against, it's wrong. Tell me that if it was black babies that cost $50,000 and white babies that cost $4,000, people would be screaming their heads off."

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To: mlmr
People can sometimes be stupid. (Yeah, I know, what do I mean "sometimes"!)
The worse are couples that want to know if they can give them back if they turn out to be defective. Actual quote!
We told them that it was a child not a refrigerator and suggested that they might be happier with some other agency.

A. Cricket

101 posted on 03/12/2002 4:52:16 PM PST by another cricket
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To: mlmr
Red tape and expense from overseas adoption? You betcha. But it still beats the crazy US birthmother who backed out after giving birth. And as a result we have some wonderful Asian children, which makes all the hassle and expense seem pretty unimportant.
102 posted on 03/12/2002 4:55:48 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: another cricket
We were not "forbidden" to place a black child with a white family but we were "strongly encouraged" not to do so. The sad part was that many prospective parents just wanted a child and did not care if it was black, white, yellow or purple with green dots.

Yes, but if such parents were conservative they might pass their conservatism onto their kid. And it just wouldn't be right to have a black kid who went through the supposed obstacles which supposedly blocked his way without properly complaining about how he couldn't accomplish anything because of all the roadblocks put up by the evil white man.

103 posted on 03/12/2002 5:10:49 PM PST by supercat
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To: altair
GoreIsLove is baiting you...there are dozens of leftists lurking this thread...hopeing they can catch someone in a blatant racial attack.

When will they learn...we only descriminate against socialists and idiots.

104 posted on 03/12/2002 5:16:41 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: colorado tanker
And as a result we have some wonderful Asian children

American Children

105 posted on 03/12/2002 5:22:32 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: Snuffington
The price is really a matter of supply and demand, there are more black and interracial children up for adoption, finding a healthy newborn white child takes more effort. There are fewer of them and more people are seeking them. The numbers play out simply from the fact statistically blacks start having kids younger and have more overall than whites, as well as the discrepency in illigitimacy rates.

Not racist, just fact.

106 posted on 03/12/2002 5:26:45 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Lizavetta
That is probably the single biggest reason people adopt from overseas, the child is yours once the paperwork is done, no one can take it away.

PA especially has horrid adoption law, even if everyone is gung ho to get the adoption done and no one is contesting can take 6months or more to finalize.

107 posted on 03/12/2002 5:29:48 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: another cricket
The worse are couples that want to know if they can give them back if they turn out to be defective. Actual quote!

I think you need a strong stomach to work in adoption sometimes!

108 posted on 03/12/2002 5:48:36 PM PST by mlmr
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To: Bommer; antaresequity
Whites can afford abortions, blacks can't, therefore a larger gross market.

Your kidding right...you don't believe this is why there are more black kids to adopt do you?

Yes, I second antaresequity's question. You don't really believe this, do you?

109 posted on 03/12/2002 5:50:15 PM PST by Amore
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To: colorado tanker
You betcha. But it still beats the crazy US birthmother who backed out after giving birth.

Birthmothers sometimes back out. Hell, it is THEIR baby. Amazing how entitled some people get about other people's children.

I would rather have a raft of birthmother's back out on me than take children from countries who dont let their mothers have a choice and keep their babies. There is a big difference between a mother who chooses to place her child for adoption and a mother who has no choice. Continuing to adopt from these countries (if you have) supports a sick, tyranical system, and prevents change.

110 posted on 03/12/2002 5:55:20 PM PST by mlmr
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To: another cricket
This leads to a reduced pool of adoptive parents for these children.
Some end up not being adopted at all. Sad.


But...it's "for the children".
Yes, I'm being sarcastic in commenting on this sad state of affairs.
These racist state/tribe/social officials probably wouldn't even consider the
downside of the "unintended consequences" of their Stalinist central-planning
for their young charges.
111 posted on 03/12/2002 5:58:38 PM PST by VOA
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To: Amore
Yes, I second antaresequity's question. You don't really believe this, do you?

You can call me antares

112 posted on 03/12/2002 6:05:11 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: HamiltonJay
"Family's pay 10s of thousands of dollars to go overseas just to make sure they adopt a child and it cannot be taken away.... Baby Jessica probably did more to hurt domestic adoption than anything I can think of."

This is so true. My cousin went overseas to adopt her son, for that reason alone.

113 posted on 03/12/2002 6:13:08 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: colorado tanker
Light skin is prized and the countries involved know they can charge for it.

I am not so sure that white skin is prized...I think that most people who adopt want their child to fit in with their lifestyle...they want them to blend, if you will...white babies resemble white adults...white adults have more money...fewer white girls get pregnant with unwanted kids (maybe) so there's fewer white babies to be adopted (maybe)...but I don't think that rich black people would 'prize' a light skinned child over a child that resembled them...most of the foreign adoptions I know of are white middle class couples adopting healthy newborns from Korea or South America...trendy-artsy multicultural but still not too radical...white people adopting black American children is also very un PC--no white person can communicate cultural heritage to a black orphan (I guess ethnic identity is more important to some people than the love of a family and a solid economic shot in life)

114 posted on 03/12/2002 6:14:39 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: foreshadowed at waco
Adopting a black or multiracial child as a white couple through the public system is a virtual joke! I am not kidding, you have to go to multicultural training, you are told and expected to tell your black child that they will never make as much money or be as successful as a white, you are expected to pick out black role models such as "Jesse Jackson" and "Al Sharpton" for them....

Its sheer lunacy! No, I am not making it up! It is no damned wonder that blacks in america think they are so kept down, when this literally is what they require and want you do with your child! I nearly hit the damned roof when I got this information... who the hell tells a young child, sorry, you can't be successful because your skin color is too dark????? But if I don't go along with it, can't get a kid... its truly pathetic.

115 posted on 03/12/2002 6:33:09 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: GoreisLove; Oldeconomybuyer
RE: your comment #4 in reply to #3:

"That's a racist concept, and you're a racist for even bringing it up. Off to the re-education camp for you."

So, "supply and demand" is a racist concept and it makes oldeconomybuyer a racist for even bringing it up? You are obviously a mole and not a very bright one at that. "Supply and Demand" is a basic concept of Capitalism, which we, a free society, thrives on. Hmmmmmmm.......

Okay, you have the freedom to go to any commie country of your choosing and provide supply for your government's demand anytime, preferably ASAP. But hurry, their days are numbered, thanks to our President Bush. Go! Go now! Don't let us "racists" stop you!

116 posted on 03/12/2002 6:35:35 PM PST by Chong
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To: mlmr
Oh, of course... at least, in THIS country... however, I was only referring to babies available for adoption :0)
117 posted on 03/12/2002 6:49:28 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: HamiltonJay
The price is really a matter of supply and demand

That's what everyone on this thread keeps saying. But it only makes sense if it is legal to sell children. It isn't.

But the cost has to be coming from somewhere. Is it paying people to search for a longer period of time? Or is there some legal slight of hand in which one can sell children without running afoul of the law.

118 posted on 03/12/2002 6:58:35 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: mlmr
Children can be placed across racial lines and have been for the past twenty years. This has been prolife white america's shield from facing their dereliction of duty, in my opinion.

Yes and no. But more no than yes. We all know the public schools are saturated with PC-think because of the NEA mentality. The professional social workers are much worse. White parents who even think of adopting Black kids are discouraged or worse, and birth-mothers who have a say in placement are almost invariably steered toward prospective parents of the same race, even if those "parents" are really single women themselves. All of this is done to prevent so-called cultural genocide, as the social workers began calling it back in the days of clenched fists and Afros. Sounds good to blame those nasty pro-lifers, but it just ain't so.

119 posted on 03/12/2002 7:10:35 PM PST by madprof98
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To: antaresequity
Actually, cheaper black babies are a good thing. Maybe some poor white people will adopt a black instead of a white. When there are mixed families, there is less racism in the surrounding community...
120 posted on 03/12/2002 7:14:44 PM PST by xm177e2
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