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Alec Baldwin Compares 2000 Elections to Sept 11
Tallahassee Democrat ^

Posted on 03/08/2002 7:42:46 AM PST by Dallas

Florida's 2000 presidential election fiasco damaged democracy as badly as the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks hurt the nation, actor Alec Baldwin said Thursday.

Baldwin told a Florida A&M University audience that President Bush and his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, are hoping that a wartime "moratorium on criticizing the government" will help Republicans in the fall elections.

Baldwin, a New Yorker, said memories of Sept. 11 have overshadowed public doubts about the 36-day recount of Florida presidential ballots. He said the war makes it hard for Bush critics to remind voters of "this other disaster that we faced in this country - a disaster that ... has done as much damage to our country as any terrorist attack could do, in some ways.

"I know that's a harsh thing to say, perhaps, but I believe that what happened in 2000 did as much damage to the pillars of democracy as terrorists did to the pillars of commerce in New York City," Baldwin said, drawing applause from the breakfast audience of about 200.

Bush spokeswoman Elizabeth Hirst said the governor signed legislation last year providing $24 million in election-reform funding over two years, including $6 million for voter education and $2 million for a statewide registration database. Much of the rest will go for replacing punch-card voting equipment and training poll workers to avoid what happened in the presidential election.

"Florida has moved on and America has moved on," she said. "We've got a president with incredibly high ratings now."

The governor also is running substantially ahead of Democratic challengers in Florida polls.

Baldwin is a board member of People for the American Way, a liberal lobbying group that sponsored the two-day observation of the second anniversary of a mass march on Tallahassee. The march protested the governor's 1999 executive orders that supplanted affirmative action in university admissions and state contracting.

As in a rally at St. Mary's Primitive Baptist Church on Wednesday night, speakers at the FAMU prayer breakfast focused more on the disputed 2000 presidential election than the One Florida protests they were commemorating. Baldwin and other speakers warned that voters will face new challenges this year because legislative and congressional redistricting is changing political boundaries.

He said the White House and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, along with the governor and other Republican leaders, are banking on the news media and voters staying distracted by the war on terrorism.

"When Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon spokespeople say to you, 'Well, this is going to be a long war, we're going to be in Afghanistan for the long haul,' what that euphemism means is that the moratorium on criticizing the government must be extended longer and longer and longer - ideally, beyond the 2002 election," Baldwin said.

Participants in the rally and prayer breakfast included Sen. Kendrick Meek, D-Miami, and former Rep. Tony Hill of Jacksonville. The two staged a sit-in at the lieutenant governor's office Jan. 18-19, 2000, demanding to see Bush about One Florida. The sit-in led to a March 7 march of about 12,000 protesters on the Capitol and a voter-registration drive that boosted black turnout by about 65 percent in the presidential election.

Meek said the governor could be in trouble if people "remember in November" what happened two years ago.

"It's like a hurricane, starting like a tropical storm and going to Category 1, Category 2," Meek said. "That's what I feel is coming in November. In this upcoming election, for the first time in state history, we're going to make sure everyone's vote is counted."


Contact reporter Bill Cotterell at (850) 599-2243 or bcotterell@taldem.com.


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To: Dallas
Does this mean they are going to let the military vote this time???? I wonder how the split will go for Reno in that block???

Pray for GW and the Truth

41 posted on 03/08/2002 8:04:07 AM PST by bray
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To: RetiredArmy
I was half-watching "Friends" last night and this jackass showed up.

I turned it off.

42 posted on 03/08/2002 8:07:26 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: LindaSOG
What is wrong with the People for the American Way?

PAW is a ultra lib group that runs op research for the Dems. Their current project is to paint Pickering, a Missippi judge as a racist. Pickering currently up for appointment in the Senate, has a reputation as a Klan fighter in Miss. Most of the Missippi black establishment has come out in support of Pickering, including Charles Evers, brother of slain civil rights leader, Medgar Evers.

They play dirty by taking things out of context and just flat lieing about Pubs they don't like. (which is all of them)

43 posted on 03/08/2002 8:07:30 AM PST by TC Rider
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To: Fzob
For a guy who cannot peacefully reside in a house with a spouse, why does he think he has any relevance on national matters? When he champions harmony from within his plasterboard box, he can lecture me on right and wrong.
44 posted on 03/08/2002 8:08:04 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Dallas
"When Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon spokespeople say to you, 'Well, this is going to be a long war, we're going to be in Afghanistan for the long haul,' what that euphemism means is that the moratorium on criticizing the government must be extended longer and longer and longer - ideally, beyond the 2002 election," Baldwin said.

(eye roll)

Why do we bother to pass laws we have no intention of enforcing? < /sarcasm >

45 posted on 03/08/2002 8:08:51 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Dallas
It's like a hurricane, starting like a tropical storm and going to Category 1, Category 2," Meek said. "That's what I feel is coming in November. In this upcoming election, for the first time in state history, we're going to make sure everyone's vote is counted.

Except of course if your vote is from overseas and your in the military. We can't allow that kind of American to vote, can we Mr. Meek.

46 posted on 03/08/2002 8:09:06 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Dallas
Funny, I compare all of Baldwin's "performances" with acts of terrorism.
47 posted on 03/08/2002 8:10:02 AM PST by Malacoda
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To: Dallas
I wonder if Hollywood realizes that part of the failure of Pearl Harbor was the refusal of many conservatives to watch a movie with this slimeball in it.

I might, just might, watch a movie with him in it if he's killed off early by a creature who devours him.

48 posted on 03/08/2002 8:10:37 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dallas
omg, he's gonna run for office.
49 posted on 03/08/2002 8:12:10 AM PST by PRND21
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To: steve-b
Found an article on it...

Snip...

The questions in the Justice Department's letter echo those the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida raised in a federal lawsuit it filed last week in Miami. The group compared the responsibilities' reminder to "study and know candidates and issues" to literacy tests that were used in past generations to prevent African-Americans from voting.

End snip...

Full Article


Another... Suit charges Florida election reform violates voting rights

50 posted on 03/08/2002 8:12:31 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Dallas
Hey, Alec, aren't you late for your flight to Paris???
51 posted on 03/08/2002 8:12:40 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Phantom Lord
So they aren't going to do it? Well, of course not. If they let them do that, then what excuse could they use?
52 posted on 03/08/2002 8:13:25 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Dallas
Ok, now I am thoroughly confused, I mean gee, didn't he move to France (or wherever) like he promised if / WHEN Gore lost the Election??

Or should I assume we can honor his word about as well as the X-Prez? I can't believe there are enough people around to keep this jackass fired up as if he had some amazing support! But then again there is a sucker born every minute they say. I guess Rosie couldn't make it that day either ....AWWWWWW :(

53 posted on 03/08/2002 8:13:49 AM PST by KineticKitty
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To: Dallas
Who gives a rat`s ass what this piece of crap thinks! What the hell does he think algore would have done about 911! I`m sure algore wouldn`t have bombed anyone! He wouldn`t want to harm the envroment!

Baldwin is a commie scumbag who has no heart! If he were a man I`d kick his ass!!!

54 posted on 03/08/2002 8:15:32 AM PST by mymanbush
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To: TC Rider
I have noticed something interesting. Republicans speak on any issue through mainly elected individuals. Rats speak on issues mainly through unelected hacks such as Baldwin/Asner/Carville/Rosie etc... Why? Election reform should require the people we elected into office to be the ones to publicly comment on issues before our representatives. Nobody voted for Alec Baldwin's opinion.
55 posted on 03/08/2002 8:16:08 AM PST by blackdog
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To: Dallas
"It's like a hurricane, starting like a tropical storm and going to Category 1, Category 2," Meek said. "That's what I feel is coming in November. In this upcoming election, for the first time in state history, we're going to make sure everyone's vote is counted."

Translation: The RATS will attempt to perpetrate the most massive election fraud in American history this Fall.

I sincerely hope that we will not sit by and allow it to happen.

56 posted on 03/08/2002 8:16:59 AM PST by pbranham
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To: mymanbush
What the hell does he think algore would have done about 911!

I don't think algore is capable of even dialing 911 on his own. I know his boss didn't know how to use the phone in the Oval Office.

58 posted on 03/08/2002 8:17:51 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Phantom Lord
I swear to god its true.

And I'll back you up that its true. I was commenting just the other day on a thread that the result of the ACLU's complaint is a mystery to me. I have never heard a follow-up story. The State suposedly had 90 days to "further explain these measures". And I could of sworn that the signs were appealed to the Federal Civil rights commission, but they have no enforcement power. I still can not remember which governing body has a say-so on this(and since Florida was a "jim crow" state, some body does).

59 posted on 03/08/2002 8:19:13 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Teacher317
It wouldn't be a total stretch to compare Baldwin himself with 9/11, IMO.

He and his ilk will end up being responsible for more deaths than those which occurred as a result of the terrorist acts comitted on that date......

60 posted on 03/08/2002 8:20:36 AM PST by tracer
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