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The Israelis were tracking the Al Qaeda operatives, and had much more specific foreknowledge of the attack than they -- or our government -- will ever admit to, as the Fox News series, LeMonde, and Intelligence Online have reported. The MAJORITY "students" the Israelis sent over here were trained in military and intelligence matters (including one son of an Israeli general): oh, but of course, that isn't in the least bit suspicious to you. Look, Mr. Magician, you can't make this disappear, so put away your bag of tricks and learn to live with it: if Israel had specific foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks -- time, place, method of operation, etc -- then we ought to be bombing Tel Aviv. In that case, Sharon is just as guilty as Bin Laden -- and both should be captured, put on trial, and executed for the murder of 3000-plus people.

The Israelis were tracking the Al Qaeda operatives, and had much more specific foreknowledge of the attack than they

Skipped your lithium again, Justine? You know, I think they were looking for an "american" editor over in Saudi. One who wouldn't commit such howlers as "the infamous Rudolph Hitler". If you just keep a certain restraint I'm sure you can manage to convince them that you would be an improvement.

Give a ping if you're going. We'll be sure to wave ;).

The Israelis were tracking the Al Qaeda operatives, and had much more specific foreknowledge of the attack than they -- or our government -- will ever admit to, as the Fox News series, LeMonde, and Intelligence Online have reported. The MAJORITY "students" the Israelis sent over here were trained in military and intelligence matters (including one son of an Israeli general): oh, but of course, that isn't in the least bit suspicious to you....if Israel had specific foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks -- time, place, method of operation, etc...

Typical. Not one bit of fact. Just conjecture and ifs. And Fox did NOT say that Israel had specific foreknowledge. The truth is simply meaningless to you. Say, how's that crow tasting?

"then we ought to be bombing Tel Aviv"

But that would put so many Israeli gays in jeopardy. You might want to rethink that.

Look, don't confuse what you know, with what you infer. We know that Israelis were kicked out of the US on visa violations (which is good--any one violating their visa should be kicked out). We know that the DEA thought Israel may be spying on the U.S. Other departments of the US government, namely the FBI, disagreed. (Of course, it's very easy to say the FBI were somehow bought off, though it's strange that one department of the government would be bought off and another one wouldn't.) Anyway, the author of the DEA report, obviously no dummy, tries to leak his theory to the media, and to a certain extent, succeeds (Fox, Le Monde, 'Intelligence Online).

But we don't know what they were doing, and what they know. The French report alleges that they were shadowing Atta. Maybe, maybe not. And if they did, well, good--at least someone was! Did they know the general plan? We don't know. Did they know the specifics? We don't know. To go from 'we don't know' to 'the Israelis definitely did know and wanted Americans to die' is blood libel, no doubt about it.

As I've already posted on this thread, the Israelis DID have specific foreknowledge of the 9-11 attack. And they sent their intelligence people to Langley to the CIA about four weeks before the attack to tell the CIA what they knew. The French, Russians and Germans also had foreknowledge of the attack and also told the CIA what they knew. The only question I have about the Israelis vis-a-vis the 9-11 attack is the lack of action of our government in response to the information given our government by the Israelis.

The major questions in my mind are a) why did the CIA and FBI not question people known to be connected with Al Qaida in an attempt to forestall the attack, and b) who ordered our Air Defense Command to stand down during the attack?

Based on the above, I'm very suspicious that the attack was allowed to proceed so that it would galvanize American public opinion enough to justify sending American troops into Afghanistan, for three purposes:

1. Clean out Al Qaida and capture bin Laden.

2. Secure the pipeline route through Afganistan for Unocal.

3. Secure control of the drug traffic originating in Afghanistan.

There is a lot behind the operation in Afghanistan that needs further investigation and publication. You're a bright guy in a fine position to help clarify the situation. But no one will pay serious attention to you as long as your major theme is that Israel is to blame for everything in the Middle East.

Everyone in Israel( except the Palis and a few religious nuts) has military training whats your point they told our CIA and the CIA & FBI screwed up.