'Bombing Saddam is ignorance'

The UK Guardian Unlimited ^ | Sunday March 3, 2002 | Henry Porter (The Observer)

[Longshanks]

Whats to understand? Drop bomb, kill lots of people to a point where surviors quit!

This was the brilliant strategy used in Yugoslavia that empowered Albanian forces of narco-terrorism. The situation now requires a never-ending US troop presence in southern Europe to contain the mess.

[steve50]

I don't understand how we expect to keep this vast pipeline system soon to be built throughout the Balkans/Central Asian corridors operational with killing 1/3 of the population or lining both sides with American troops 3 deep.

Of course it will be taxpayer backed loans that build these things, taxpayer dollars that pay for the military presence to secure them, and taxpayer aid that goes to buy the affection of whatever political hack will do our bidding.

[TheDon]

The lack of information from the media is appalling. Of course, the minority of us who like to stay informed resort to other sources, such as FR posts.

Overthrowing the current Iraqi government, and replacing it with a secular, democratic government, is very important to the security of the US. I think the recent Bush Administration leak of our nuclear weapons policy gives fair warning to Iran of what they can expect if they interfere with our wishes in Iraq. Cheney's visit to Middle Eastern countries is unprecedented and no doubt meant to sent a very clear message about our plans and expectations. There is much that is going on behind the scenes, neccessarily so. We elect leaders to take care of such matters, leaders in whom we place our trust. If they abuse such trust, there are many ways to deal with it.

[Boyd]

Lemmee see.

• When we have a defector from the Clinton cabal, he/she is a low life scum-sucking weasel.

• When we have a defector from the 'enemy of the day', he/she is a prophet.

• When we have Scott Ritter criticizing the Clinton administration, he is a Saint.

• When the same Mr. Ritter criticizes the present group, he is an idiot.

  Lemmee see...

[mafree]

bump

[RightWhale]

Partition Iraq into 3 administrative districts. Let Turkey administer the north, Iran administer the south, and Jordan administer the middle.

[Free the USA]

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[aristeides]

There's an article on the back page of the first section of today's Wall Street Journal about the different Iraqis various factions in the U.S. government are supporting to take Saddam's place.

[mafree]

bttt

[Texaggie79]

I wonder why it is not published in the US? Or is it?

Sure it is, Rain Man over here publishes articles like this liberal crap all the time in Anti-war

[mv1]

After a quarter of century abroad, Baer hardly recognises the States and is appalled at the level of public ignorance.

'There is no debate,' he says. 'People will not address the question of Palestine in the context of the World Trade Centre attacks. It's not in the terms of the discussion. They simply believe that Israel has the right to defend its democracy like the US does. They don't understand that Israel gives no democratic rights to the Palestinians whatsoever. They don't see that it's not a democracy.'

Comrades what kind of talk is this?

[TheDon]

No doubt events are in flux in the Middle East. But you can be sure that we will not be leaving governments hostile to the United States and the West in power. Iraq and Iran are two countries with governments which support transnational terrorists, most likely those which have attacked the US. In any case, they must be confronted, and if neccessary removed from power. That they are in the process of obtaining weapons of mass destruction only makes it that much more important that they be stopped sooner than later.

[John W]

What did Ritter crticize the Clinton administration for?

What is he criticizing the "present group" for,four years removed from any direct knowledge of the situation?

Now do you understand why he is,at best,an idiot?I believe he is a Saddam sympathizer.

[Boyd]

uh-huh

[Southern Federalist]

Comrades what kind of talk is this?

Just the kind of talk which the Guardian, which hates America and Israel about equally rabidly, would eat up with a spoon. Ignorant Americans - Israel is to blame - wonderful!

Baer may know some things about CIA incompetence, especially during the Clinton era. But that give us no reason to give a large moose evacuation about his views of the Big Picture.

He just wrote a book, after all, and now he needs to keep up his media exposure in order to sell it. And I think we know what kind of opinions get media exposure in the US and Britain. In this guy's case it sounds like there's an added factor of revenge on all those who failed to appreciate his savvy brilliance.

[Light Speed]

If you get the chance..read Zbigniew Brzenski's CFR work.. "The Grand Chessboard"- American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives.
Clintons mishandling on the "Pipeline" expansion thru several unstable regions may have been a set back..yet the "Afganistan expansion" model has worked exceedingly well ....many "Brand new" U.S. military facilites now appear from the Balkans to Pakistan.

Sure...Russia was given a large "Piece of the action"..large oil and gas contracts to Europe..liquidity city!...yet..the "Nearness" of American corporate power and Military positioning will undoubtadly force Moscow to counter via countries like Iran..Syria and Lebanon.
Its in Russias best interest to "Agitiate" radical Islamic elements in the Gulf..and in the former Muslim Soviet Bloc nations.
Stir the pot....and see what comes of it.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!