Atomic Threat- Officials Warn: "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die"

Matt Drudge ^ | 030302 | AntiDemoCommie

[antidemocommie]

"Counterterrorism experts and government officials interviewed by TIME say that for all the relative calm since Sept. 11, America’s luck will probably run out again, sooner or later." "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die," warns one U.S. counterterrorism official. "I don't think there's a damn thing we're going to be able to do about it."

Read on:...That made the DRAGONFIRE report alarming. So did this: detonated in lower Manhattan, a 10-kiloton bomb would kill some 100,000 civilians and irradiate 700,000 more, flattening everything in a half-mile diameter.

The following is more information that you can use to protect yourself, and your family. Also, in your opinion, is the administration correct? Are we likely to see a ten kiloton device set off inside the country? Please keep in mind that this kind of nuke is very small, and easily carried by one or two persons, today.

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Blast Zones

Breakdown of Atomic Blast Zones

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Diagram Outline

[1] Vaporization Point

Everything is vaporized by the atomic blast.
98% fatalities.
Overpress=25 psi. Wind velocity=320 mph.

[2] Total Destruction

All structures above ground are destroyed.
90% fatalities
Overpress=17 psi. Wind velocity=290 mph.

[3] Severe Blast Damage

Factories and other large-scale building collapse. Severe damage to highway bridges. Rivers sometimes flow countercurrent.
65% fatalities, 30% injured.
Overpress=9 psi. Wind velocity=260 mph.

[4] Severe Heat Damage

Everything flammable burns. People in the area suffocate due to the fact that most available oxygen is consumed by the fires.
50% fatalities, 45% injured.
Overpress=6 psi. Wind velocity=140 mph.

[5] Severe Fire & Wind Damage

Residency structures are severely damaged. People are blown around. 2nd and 3rd-degree burns suffered by most survivors.
15% dead. 50% injured.
Overpress=3 psi. Wind velocity=98 mph.

Blast Zone Radii

3 different bomb types

	10 KILOTONS	1 MEGATON	20 MEGATONS
Zone	Airburst - 1,980 ft	Airburst - 8,000 ft	Airburst - 17,500 ft
1	0.5 miles	2.5 miles	8.75 miles
2	1 mile	3.75 miles	14 miles
3	1.75 miles	6.5 miles	27 miles
4	2.5 miles	7.75 miles	31 miles
5	3 miles	10 miles	35 miles

Note

• The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 20 Kilotons
• The bomb dropped on Nagasaki was less than 10 Kilotons

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Hiroshima

Hiroshima

As many know, atomic bombs have been used only twice in warfare. The first and foremost blast site of the atomic bomb is Hiroshima. A Uranium bomb (which weighed in at over 4 & 1/2 tons) nicknamed "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima August 6th, 1945. The Aioi Bridge, one of 81 bridges connecting the seven-branched delta of the Ota River, was the aiming point of the bomb. Ground Zero was set at 1,980 feet. At 0815 hours, the bomb was dropped from the Enola Gay. It missed by only 800 feet. At 0816 hours, in the flash of an instant, 66,000 people were killed and 69,000 people were injured by a 20 kiloton atomic explosion.

The point of total vaporization from the blast measured one half of a mile in diameter. Total destruction ranged at one mile in diameter. Severe blast damage carried as far as two miles in diameter. At two and a half miles, everything flammable in the area burned. The remaining area of the blast zone was riddled with serious blazes that stretched out to the final edge at a little over three miles in diameter.

Nagasaki

On August 9th 1945, Nagasaki fell to the same treatment as Hiroshima. Only this time, a Plutonium bomb nicknamed "Fat Man" was dropped on the city. Even though the "Fat Man" missed by over a mile and a half, it still leveled nearly half the city. Nagasaki's population dropped in one split-second from 422,000 to 383,000. 39,000 were killed, over 25,000 were injured. That blast was less than 10 kilotons as well. Estimates from physicists who have studied each atomic explosion state that the bombs that were used had utilized only 1/10th of 1 percent of their respective explosive capabilities.

[Churchillspirit]

California has pretty much "moved on"

California still has many companies involved in the defense industry. Let's hope some of the "moving on" is with increased R&D and production.

[cibco]

Bump.

[dawn53]

Let's see how my math is:

100,000 casualties

Now what are the victims of the WTC getting from the federal government? I think I heard at least $1,000,000 each

so the federal payout for this next scenario would be $1,000,000 times 100,000 that's just a cool $100,000,000,000.

Also noted in my latest Humana health insurance policy (in very very small print) Treatment of injuries received as a result of war, declared or undeclared, will not be covered. Called the folks at Humana and asked if that meant terrorism and they said, Yep.( By the way, I checked this info out with the insurance commissioner's office and they told me all upcoming policies will contain this waiver.)

[pepsionice]

For any Muslim that thinks this solves or fixes their problems...big mistake. We will shut all doors on visiting Arabs for the next ten years. That means attendance at universities for rich Arab students will halt overnight. Our friends in UK and Europe will likely take same stance, as well Japan and South Korea. Higher education will be limited to strictly the middle east. As for Arab businessmen who regularly come to the U.S....prepare for massive paperwork and escorted status while in the U.S. We will help the middle east back to the stone age as much as possible. Our policy of reacting to any threat will be immedate, no matter who thinks they are pretender allies of the U.S. Saudi Arabia had better bring out the checkbook and start the first check to nuked area. I would guess their donation ought to be in the $10 billion range to start with. Life forever changes when this nuke comes....it will put us all on a massive wake-up call about idiots running around the globe who are anti-American.

[ICE-FLYER]

I still think the idea of terrorists having such a device is pretty much cow manure

While I do not put it past Iraq or North Korea as possibly having a crude or "dirty" nuke on hand, I doubt the Terrorists have one as it would have been used by now. As a matter of question; why would they have taken the time to train 20 or so men to fly an aircraft into a building when they could have simply sit in the harbor and rowed a boat ashore placing their 'device' next to buildings and making most of the lower tip of Manhattan a garbage dump?

I am with you, I think they do not have one, but will do anything to try and get one.

[hattend]

A west coast attack would potentially take out more people due to wind distribution of the radioactive cloud.

I guess it would depend if the terrorists would be trying to make a point and cripple the Govt (DC) or want to run up casualties (Gay Bay).

[antidemocommie]

No one is talking about a ship parked in a harbor. Why?

[Centurion2000]

bump

[gcruse]

America’s luck will probably run out again, sooner or
later.

No kidding. Using 'probably' here
along with the open-ended 'sooner
or later' reads like some high-school
kid's homework report.  Lameness
has achieved the main stream.
SNL is America.


 

[antidemocommie]

Answer: Becasue that was all they had at the time, but since those days, they have been able to purchase a 10 kiloton device and are now planning on using it.

[gcruse]

Marshall Law? ROTFL
Damn, dewd.

[hole_n_one]

Nukefix.org

[sam_paine]

I agree that this new hysteria doesn't seem justified.

Why would nukes be more likely after 9/11 than before???

Why would they be interested in crop dusters for unwieldy bioterror, and not small cargo-carrying type planes for a nuke delivery??

[rwfromkansas]

Goodness....please don't tell me that...lol.

[antidemocommie]

Why isn't it already here?

[antidemocommie]

Because the crop duster is just as effective. It can carry a small 10 kiloton device. Or, maybe they will just place it on top of a NYNY buidling. Thats about 1000 feet up, isn't it?

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

"I still think the idea of terrorists having such a device is pretty much cow manure."

Well, let's pray that your optimism is not misplaced.

On the other hand, the only thing that has prevented a nuclear holocaust for the past 50 years has been the presence of at least a few rational decision-makers on each side.

We seem to have lost that- and nuclear weapons are NOT that difficult to come by...

[Noumenon]

The only possible response to a nuke must be an immediate counterstrike with hundreds of nuclear weapons on every Islamic country, followed by a biological attack on the survivors. Unless this is done, the United States will be destroyed, one city at a time, until it is no more. Life or death, choose.

You, sir, are willing to see the elephant in the living room. For the rest of us, it'll be far too late.

[sam_paine]

A ship parked in a harbor, by definition, must detonate -below- the level of the city, so the blast wouldn't be nearly as effective as these estimates of airblasts.

Again, such a nuke, or even a dirty bomb wouldn't even be as effective at spreading radiation as a small housefire burning irradiated fuel.

[rwfromkansas]

I bet you are right....I don't even think they have any kind of decent nukes. Maybe a dirty bomb...but that would not do much anyway. And even having a dirty bomb is doubtful.