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Al Neuharth: Why is China OK, but Cuba 'enemy'?
USA Today ^ | February 22, 2002 | Al Neuharth, USA Today founder

Posted on 03/03/2002 6:26:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: GuillermoX
"Ahh, I see. You are [anti] Embargo simply to prevent [freedom in Cuba]. Are you going to send them a [check] for your [support]?"

Excellent debate. /sarc

41 posted on 03/03/2002 7:25:31 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Jhoffa_
If you think China is okay, then why not?

I have never said this, nor would I.

42 posted on 03/03/2002 7:26:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maybe Al likes to go down there to bugger little Cuban boys, or get some fine 11 year old Cuban prostitutes...that's what people in other countries find in Cuba, even Sally Quinn loves the smell of sex in the air in Cuba.

Maybe that jerk could move to Canada, where the people just love traveling to Cuba, and write glowing reviews in Canadian travel mags.

43 posted on 03/03/2002 7:26:21 AM PST by Benrand
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ending the Embargo does not mean "The Gov't must back US business ventures to Cuba". I'm opposed to the Gov't backing ANY business venture, ANYWHERE on earth.

Again, I'm certain that the companies that want to trade in Cuba are ever grateful for you letting them know they won't get paid. After all, they have no clue on making sure they get paid by their customers.

44 posted on 03/03/2002 7:29:08 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is no reason for the disparity in treatment, but all I hear is how awfull Cuba is.. How we shouldn't even allow people to go there of their own free will..

Invest their own money and so on and so forth..

It's ridiculous.

45 posted on 03/03/2002 7:29:32 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: GuillermoX
I didn't realize this was the case with the exiles, but it makes sense. I wonder, though, if it holds true for the winners of this lottery. Have you ever heard of this lottery?
46 posted on 03/03/2002 7:31:18 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Jhoffa_
Seriously, if you have no problem with China then what's so bad about Cuba?

Where is this equivalency argument coming from? The Buchanan-area of the spectrum? (honest question)
If it is, then wouldn't our Cuba policy be closer to the anti-"foreign entanglement" positions he espouses?

"Seriously, if you have no problem with [sex] then what's so bad about [rape]?"

47 posted on 03/03/2002 7:31:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Read her posts. Her arguments for the Embargo are essentially "Castro refuses to do business unless he is extended credit, and if US businesses extend him credit, they would never get paid and consumers would have to foot the bill instead. We must keep the Embargo up to prevent US businesses from making poor business decisions".
48 posted on 03/03/2002 7:32:00 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: Demidog
Two sources that speak to your beliefs:

Vicki Huddleston Q&A: Veteran leader speaks about dissidents, Castro and the U.S. role

Don't be misled, President Bush is not soft on Cuba--"The American President's outburst sets right some misconceptions in Havana, at the U.S. State Department and on Capitol Hill. The word has been spread that under Secretary of State Colin Powell's tutelage, Bush was going to seek normalization with Castro's dictatorial regime. While the trade embargo may be modified, it will continue and will no longer be the only instrument deployed by Washington to democratize Cuba. What's more, Powell is fully on board with an expanded anti-Castro strategy."

49 posted on 03/03/2002 7:32:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: genew
Because there isn't enough slave labor in Cuba to keep Nike's, et al's, profits high?

DITTO!

50 posted on 03/03/2002 7:33:00 AM PST by SkiBum
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To: GuillermoX
Let me explain my own positions.

Cuba Says No More U.S. Imports Until Embargo Eased --Castro no more cash sales, must offer credit.

51 posted on 03/03/2002 7:33:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Those absolutely do not speak to your assertion that Bush was cracking down on government loans to businesses. We already know that Bush is continuing this stupid policy of an embargo upon Cuba.

I can provide a quote for you if you'd like of Bush himself talking about expanded and faster loans to businesses.

52 posted on 03/03/2002 7:35:53 AM PST by Demidog
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To: 1rudeboy

Okay, since you asked.

I supported Alan Keyes in the Primary and Dubya in the General. I voted for him and I dissagree with Pat on many issues, the only issue I can think of that I am firmly in Pat's corner on is immigration, and that's just because he's the only one talking about it.

It's like the elephant in the living room, completely invisible to everyone else. Aside from this issue, I was not, am not and will not be a pirchforker.

Good comparison.. Perhaps you should look at the atrocities in China before making it however.

They openly threaten us, knock down out plane and hold hostages, are dying to invade their neighbors, persecute christians, crush their own students with tanks, force abortions (and get mad when we won't subsidize them via the UN, BTW) and sell arms to terrorists.

53 posted on 03/03/2002 7:37:04 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: 1rudeboy
If it is, then wouldn't our Cuba policy be closer to the anti-"foreign entanglement" positions he espouses?

Absolutely not. That was George Washington's warning and he was talking about political entanglements. Alliances which demand that the US go to war to defend our allies.

Trade is not political. If the American people chose not to do business with communist countries it is their right to do so.

I purchase nothing from China and don't know if I would from Cuba either.

54 posted on 03/03/2002 7:38:55 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Yardstick
I'm not sure I've heard of that lottery.

Exiles are an extremely stubborn bunch. Any public opposition to the Embargo in Miami is a dangerous stance to take. Anyone who espouses such a stance is immediately branded a "communist Castro sympathizer", and it is true that many who are opposed to the Embargo are exactly that. But that's not the case for everyone. There are increasingly more and more, especially US-born children of Exiles, who recognize the Embargo is helping Castro and want to see it end. I suspect that many who are pro-Embargo are that because they've been for it for so many years, they could never change for fear.

55 posted on 03/03/2002 7:39:07 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No gov't backing for any business venture and let US companies decide whether they want to take the risk of doing business in Cuba. I'm absolutely, 100% certain that they don't need you to save them from making a bad business decision.
56 posted on 03/03/2002 7:40:56 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: GuillermoX
We must keep the Embargo up to prevent US businesses from making poor business decisions".

On to the next thing. How can people who can't self-enrich, partake in the bounty of sending goods to Castro?
Freeing up his capital by subsidizing him will just help him finance his terrorist activities abroad.
Read some of the LINKS I've provided and learn something instead of just ignorantly reacting.

57 posted on 03/03/2002 7:43:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Demidog
Provide away! Let me see and respond.
58 posted on 03/03/2002 7:44:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What "good ol' Al" does not mention in this piece is WHY he met Elian Gonzalex. He went there to give Elian the "Freedom's Flame" Award fron his personally-run "charity," the Freedom Foundation. With Cuban communists beaming at his side, he presented that Award to Elian, who's mother died to give hiim freedom, and who was returned at gunpoint to that brutal dictatorship.

His connected organizations include the First Amendment Institute at Vanderbilt University. All boards are well-stocked with present and former employees of "good ol' Al," so when he says "frog," they jump.

Among the sychophants in the press who are part of Al's jihad against freedon are Judy Woodrull, Tim Russert, and Jim Lehrer. Neuharth, arogant b*stard that he is, is an enemy of freedom both in the US and outside its borders.

And in answer to the question he poses in his article, China has 1.3 billion people, a large army, and neuclear weapons. Cuba does not. We suck up to China (wrongfully) because of that. We don't suck up to Cuba because it is just as totalitarian as China, just as vicious, but is a gnat on the international stage.

I wrote a column on Al and his idea of freedom a while back. It was about his hangers-on who infest the boards of his various charities. It was entitled, "Wh*res to the Left of Ua, Wh*res to the Further Left of Us." You get the idea.

Al's the uber-boss, so Useless Today prints whatever drivel comes oout of his typewriter. Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

Column on Cornel West, Educated Moron"

59 posted on 03/03/2002 7:45:13 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Back to one of my earlier posts, in response to why other countries can't do it: The vast majority of Cuban Exiles live in the US, a few of them they would provide the necessary capital. When a free market is finally introduced to Cuba, money from S Florida will flow.
60 posted on 03/03/2002 7:45:55 AM PST by GuillermoX
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