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New Out-Of-Africa Theory Unveiled
Discovery News ^ | 2-25-2002 | Larry O'Hanlon

Posted on 02/27/2002 4:56:58 PM PST by blam

New Out-of-Africa Theory Unveiled

By Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News

Leaving the Mother Country

Feb. 25 — The human family just got even smaller.

Everyone outside of Africa — Asians, Europeans, Native Americans, Southeast Asians, Australian Aborigines, etc. — came from the same small band of humans that left the mother continent some 80,000 years ago by way of Ethiopia, according to a new theory unveiled Monday by geneticists and DNA detectives.

"No, we haven't found the bones of the original Eve," said DNA tracker Stephen Oppenheimer of Oxford University in a press teleconference.

Instead, researchers have followed the trail of mitochondrial DNA, which we inherit unchanged from our mothers, and backtracked down the branching tree of the human family throughout the world.

If the mitochondrial DNA story is correct, then we all descend from a woman who lived in Africa 150,000 years ago, said geneticist Martin Richards of Huddersfield University in England, who also took part in the briefing.

Oppenheimer and Huddersfield will appear in "The Real Eve," a Discovery Channel documentary premiering on April 21.

What's more, all non-Africans come from a small group of people who ventured out of Africa some 80,000 years ago, perhaps because of climate changes along the Red Sea shore that made life there too difficult, he said.(maybe it dried up during the Ice Age, huh?)

Genetic evidence of that small band can be found today in India, said Oppenheimer. "In India, all of the early lines that gave rise to Asians and Europeans are found in great profusion and great antiquity," he said.

For years anthropologists have debated whether humans left Africa by a northern route — via the present-day Suez Canal region — or by a southern route, via a short-lived isthmus connecting Ethiopia to Yemen at the southern end of the Red Sea. Some researchers have even suggested that Europeans descend from the people of the northern exodus and the rest of non-Africans from the people of the southern exodus.

But the DNA just doesn't support dual routes, said Oppenheimer and Richards.

"The fact that we look different is because we live in different environments," said Oppenheimer. "(But) we are really, truly the same under the skin."

The single exodus theory also meshes well with other genetic and archeological discoveries. Last year, researchers working on the Human Genome Project reported that the pool of human genetic material is startlingly small, implying we are a young species and come from a very small group of Africans.

However, not everyone is convinced of the single group theory, said paleontologist Tim White of the University of California at Berkeley. "My sense in it is that we're not close to the bottom line yet," he told Discovery News.

Genetics has yielded some new data to the mix, he said, but the smoke hasn't yet cleared enough to see the details of exactly when and where modern humans came out of Africa.


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To: Mensch
Apology accepted.
61 posted on 03/01/2002 2:09:03 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: jeremiah
You're right--they don't know. And the "Eve" thing is a construct. The evidence that the EARLY line that eventually became "us" is of African origin is absolutely solid; where the last half million or so years of humanity came from and where the actual "humanization" occured is not known. The African part of this IS PC-driven (IMO--but certainly not out of the question. It COULD be Africa.
62 posted on 03/01/2002 2:14:45 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
>>The Homo erectus of China (Peking Man) of 400,000 years ago had specific dental and cranial traits that are unique to present-day Asians. <<

I bet H. erectus was very, very good at math...

63 posted on 03/01/2002 2:16:45 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
Likely better at math than the Homo erectus walking around Africa and Europe...LOL
64 posted on 03/01/2002 2:19:46 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: TopQuark
>>How come no poeple seem to develop Negroid features because it lives in Africa after migrating from elsewhere?<<

There is reasonable evidence that the Lemba people are genetically related to Jews, although thyey look quite African.

I think it matters, after a population shift, who mates with whom. Native men probably seldom mate with invader women, while invader men probably routinely mate with native women.

Over time, this will get the "Y" lineage and the mtDNA out of sync.

65 posted on 03/01/2002 2:21:45 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: blam
we are really, truly the same under the skin

Is that why whites and blacks have much different ratios of slow twitch muscle fiber to quick twitch muscle fiber?

66 posted on 03/01/2002 2:26:39 AM PST by wotan
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To: Mensch
What is it about the thought of a common and recent African ancestor, that seems to bother you so much?

Mensch. Thank you for asking this question.

67 posted on 03/01/2002 2:28:05 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Pharmboy
The African part of this IS PC-driven

I don't understand that. What's PC about it?

68 posted on 03/01/2002 2:35:10 AM PST by Sandy
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To: laconas
That means we are all African/Americans, and if this the case, we should all be entitled to the same benefits as all A/A.

Does this mean that I'm now entitled to reparations? Oh Joy!

Wait a minute. I guess this means I'd owe them to myself.

Never mind.

69 posted on 03/01/2002 2:44:13 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Pharmboy
The Homo erectus of China (Peking Man) of 400,000 years ago had specific dental and cranial traits that are unique to present-day Asians.

Explain that, PC-liars.

If I understand NPR correctly, (a big IF) the theory is that these early humanoids (including the Neanderthals) represent an evolutionary dead end, they have left no present day descendants. So the theory is at consistent, at least.

Personally, I'll keep an open mind.

70 posted on 03/01/2002 2:45:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Sandy
The PC part of it (and I would hope you please read the rest of my posts on this thread) is that a PART of the scientific community is bending over backwards while ignoring important data in attempting to prove to the world that it was in Africa that we finally became "human." This serves their agenda in two ways: 1) it makes black people the original sapient species (which might be true, but the data are not in yet) and 2) by bringing the date closer and closer to the present, they are diminishing the separation of the races (while I am not arguing for racialism, I am arguing against distorting data).

It amazes me that the same people who argue against the existence of races, always seem to pump up the importance of the non-white ones. You can't have it both ways.

And, please let me again say: there is no doubt that the line that eventually would give rise to humans arose in Africa. The battle is about when the key "Out of Africa" event occured to make us fully human.

71 posted on 03/01/2002 4:35:31 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Please keep an open mind ready to interpret new data as it arises. Neanderthals MAY have been a dead-end (the issue has not been resolved yet) but the Asian Homo erectus was not a dead end; the PC-paleoanthropologists would like us to believe that, but data argues against it.
72 posted on 03/01/2002 4:38:21 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
1) it makes black people the original sapient species... and 2) by bringing the date closer and closer to the present, they are diminishing the separation of the races

Interesting (although I don't see why anyone would view the first rung of the human evolutionary ladder as a desirable claim to fame).

73 posted on 03/01/2002 5:13:56 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy
Interesting (although I don't see why anyone would view the first rung of the human evolutionary ladder as a desirable claim to fame).

Good point; but, if we combine this issue with their other issue about "all peoples of the world are essentially born with the same intelligence and it is really the environment that counts" we can get to an interesting place, eh?

74 posted on 03/01/2002 5:30:56 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
"Please keep an open mind ready to interpret new data as it arises. Neanderthals MAY have been a dead-end (the issue has not been resolved yet) but the Asian Homo erectus was not a dead end; the PC-paleoanthropologists would like us to believe that, but data argues against it."

Yup. Mungo Man (Australia) is an example. I happen to believe that we are Neanderthal.

75 posted on 03/01/2002 6:11:24 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
To my mind, the only way we do NOT have any Neandertal genes in us is if mating between us and them produced either no offspring or sterile ones (think mule). Otherwise it is highly unlikely that a species as sexually driven as ours (and our ancestors no doubt) would not have sexually exploited a species that was a cousin to us. Remember, even farm animals look good to some (no--not me!).
76 posted on 03/01/2002 7:18:55 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
Neanderthal Hybrid
77 posted on 03/01/2002 7:27:50 AM PST by blam
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To: Mensch
Wardaddy is somewhere between Mensch and the Posses. Organized resistance is futile.
78 posted on 03/01/2002 7:47:35 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: crevo_list
Bump.
79 posted on 03/01/2002 8:10:48 AM PST by Junior
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To: Jim Noble
Thanks, Jim. I'll think about that.
80 posted on 03/01/2002 11:02:36 AM PST by TopQuark
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