Posted on 02/25/2002 4:58:50 AM PST by doc30
I have a simple question for everyone here. Free Republic is a discussion forum that frequently involves articles and discussions of political candidates. Does this mean that, under campaign finance reform, Free Republic must be censored lest it violate the 60-day or 30-day rule in the current legislation? You thoughts please.
"The term `express advocacy' does not include a communication which is in printed form or posted on the Internet that--"
Does FR contain express advocacy for candidates, or not? If so, it is up to the bozos at the FEC to determine whether, or not , to punish FR. See the particular details to the exclusion of internet postings I gave above in post 16, Sec 201, b,20,B,iii. Do FR posts advocate the election, or defeat of certain particular candidates?
So the obvious answer to rain down leaflets (biodegradeable with non-toxic ink to avoid the environazis) on the cities like a war zone such as Afghanistan. We are an occupied people, occupied by politicians.
Voter guides are sent by democrats, to democrats. They are nothing, but obfuscated advocacy. If the NRA sends out a voter guide, the very fact it was the NRA sending it out, makes it express advocacy for a certain position.
The FEC passes on rat activity now. They have their own publicly funded propaganda campaign now.
You'll have to avoid being shot down by homeland security forces. Like the approach to, and over Cuba.
Unfortunately, I think you're exactly right.
Sure, there's lots of things that I like to see removed, and sure there are lots of legal and other reasons why JimRob is required to remove certain posts....but FR is NOT totally free speech, can't be.
So all they're arguing now is WHO regulates other kinds of speech. Same old slippy slope.
I'm going to go have my heart attack now!
We probably agree on much more than you think.
Our differences have less to do with what we think should be done, and more to do with who should do it.
You seem to favor government authority as the solution to problems.
I tend to favor individual liberty and absolute respect for the rights of individuals as the solution to problems.
Conservatives would fit this definition
con·ser·va·tive Pronunciation Key (kn-sûrv-tv) adj.
n.
conservative \Con*serv"a*tive\, a. [Cf. F. conservatif.] 1. Having power to preserve in a safe of entire state, or from loss, waste, or injury; preservative.
conservative \Con*serv"a*tive\, n. 1. One who, or that which, preserves from ruin, injury, innovation, or radical change; a preserver; a conserver. The Holy Spirit is the great conservative of the new life. --Jer. Taylor. 2. One who desires to maintain existing institutions and customs; also, one who holds moderate opinions in politics; -- opposed to revolutionary or radical. 3. (Eng. Hist.) A member of the Conservative party.
conservative
The Libertarians best fit the following definitions
liberal \Lib"er*al\ (l[i^]b"[~e]r*al), a. [F. lib['e]ral, L. liberalis, from liber free; perh. akin to libet, lubet, it pleases, E. lief. Cf. Deliver.] 1. Free by birth; hence, befitting a freeman or gentleman; refined; noble; independent; free; not servile or mean; as, a liberal ancestry; a liberal spirit; liberal arts or studies. `` Liberal education.'' --Macaulay. `` A liberal tongue.'' --Shak. 2. Bestowing in a large and noble way, as a freeman; generous; bounteous; open-handed; as, a liberal giver. `` Liberal of praise.'' --Bacon. Infinitely good, and of his good As liberal and free as infinite. --Milton. 3. Bestowed in a large way; hence, more than sufficient; abundant; bountiful; ample; profuse; as, a liberal gift; a liberal discharge of matter or of water. His wealth doth warrant a liberal dower. --Shak. 4. Not strict or rigorous; not confined or restricted to the literal sense; free; as, a liberal translation of a classic, or a liberal construction of law or of language. 5. Not narrow or contracted in mind; not selfish; enlarged in spirit; catholic. 6. Free to excess; regardless of law or moral restraint; licentious. `` Most like a liberal villain.'' --Shak. 7. Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion; not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the constitution or administration of government; having tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished from monarchical or aristocratic, forms; as, liberal thinkers; liberal Christians; the Liberal party. I confess I see nothing liberal in this `` order of thoughts,'' as Hobbes elsewhere expresses it. --Hazlitt. Note: Liberal has of, sometimes with, before the thing bestowed, in before a word signifying action, and to before a person or object on which anything is bestowed; as, to be liberal of praise or censure; liberal with money; liberal in giving; liberal to the poor. The liberal arts. See under Art. Liberal education, education that enlarges and disciplines the mind and makes it master of its own powers, irrespective of the particular business or profession one may follow. Syn: Generous; bountiful; munificent; beneficent; ample; large; profuse; free. Usage: Liberal, Generous. Liberal is freeborn, and generous is highborn. The former is opposed to the ordinary feelings of a servile state, and implies largeness of spirit in giving, judging, acting, etc. The latter expresses that nobleness of soul which is peculiarly appropriate to those of high rank, -- a spirit that goes out of self, and finds its enjoyment in consulting the feelings and happiness of others. Generosity is measured by the extent of the sacrifices it makes; liberality, by the warmth of feeling which it manifests.
liberal \Lib"er*al\, n. One who favors greater freedom in political or religious matters; an opponent of the established systems; a reformer; in English politics, a member of the Liberal party, so called. Cf. Whig.
liberal adj 1: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" [syn: broad, tolerant] 2: having political or social views favoring reform and progress 3: tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition [ant: conservative] 4: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather" [syn: big, bighearted, bounteous, bountiful, freehanded, handsome, giving, openhanded] 5: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem" [syn: free, loose] n 1: a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties [syn: progressive] [ant: conservative] 2: a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
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I hope all special interest groups collectively tell our overbearing federal government to f*** off if this bill becomes law.
Conservatism requires an embrace of either Christianity or Judaism?
I say conservative in the way it is defined in the dictionary as opposed to the conservative as in the minds of Libertarians which do not in any way fit the definition of Conservative.
I certainly don't consider myself a conservative.
I firmly believe the Liberals in this country are responsible for its soon coming downfall.
If by "liberal" you mean leftist and collectivist authoritarians (as the term has come to be understood), then I would agree (but would not limit the blame to "liberals").
We no longer have what we once did. We will exist in name only and may be there already.
Certainly I would agree that the republic is all but dead. But I recognize it's death as coming at the hands of big-government advocates and authoritarians of all stripes. While what you call "liberals" share a large portion of the blame for this... people calling themselves "conservative" have had a significant hand in the destruction of the republic as well.
Hardly someone really wanting info, seems more to harass. Am I off on this?
Indeed those who call themselves Conservative are no more so than those who call themselves oranges. The proof is in the pudding.
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I don't think we can allow that under the Interstate Commmerce Clause.
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