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To: Southack
If you think that such software can self-form in a natural, unaided, non-intelligent environment, then I suggest that you either show an example of such an event or go back and view the math listed in the link that I conveniently provided for you in Post #310. Once you understand the math, you'll see that your claim is invalid and in error.

Again, Post 310 does not prove that. It shows that a line of text from Hamlet did not appear in a specified finite interval. That does not mean that it would not appear in a longer finite interval - say, 10^70 years. It follows that we should expect self-organizing computer programs to appear at "random", if given a sufficiently long finite period of time.

And, of course, the method for the generation of the "random" characters - monkeys on typewriters - bears no relation to the method by which "random" chemical interactions take place. Chemical interactions produce complex compounds far faster - but you knew that already.

408 posted on 03/05/2002 12:06:43 PM PST by cracker
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To: cracker
If you think that such software can self-form in a natural, unaided, non-intelligent environment, then I suggest that you either show an example of such an event or go back and view the math listed in the link that I conveniently provided for you in Post #310. Once you understand the math, you'll see that your claim is invalid and in error. - Southack

"Again, Post 310 does not prove that. It shows that a line of text from Hamlet did not appear in a specified finite interval. That does not mean that it would not appear in a longer finite interval - say, 10^70 years." - cracker

Then you didn't understand the math. The math SPECIFICALLY shows that you can calculate the odds of probability/improbability for the longer time period.

You have not done so. If you aren't willing to use math to refute the math that I posted, then you are unscientific. come back when you are willing to post the probability/improbability calculations for your longer time period and then we'll discuss the chances of the first sentence of Hamlet self-forming randomly.

By that point you might even understand how much the improbability increases and the corresponding probability decreases if you increase the size of that sentence by even one letter.

Until you can work the math, you've got nothing to contribute on this point.

411 posted on 03/05/2002 12:12:50 PM PST by Southack
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