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Abu’s (Sayyaf -AlQaeda/Bin Laden) Long-standing Ties to Global Terrorism Bared (OKC Bombing)
Manila Times ^ | February 15, 2002 | Dorian Zumel Sicat

Posted on 02/18/2002 5:08:06 PM PST by OKCSubmariner

Abu Sayyaf bandits were involved in international terrorist operations that targeted American facilities long before the Sept. 11 attacks that sparked US President George W. Bush’s global campaign against the al-Qaida and its allies.

Philippine defense and police intelligence sources told THE MANILA TIMES that Abu Sayyaf leaders had met with terrorist masterminds of several atrocities just before US targets were hit.

Although Philippine authorities advised American authorities of the alliance between the Abu Sayyaf, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida, and American neo-nazis, the US appeared to ignore the warnings; until Sept. 11.

Strange bedfellows

But according to the sources, who have requested anonymity, investigations have been reopened, and in silence, about the relationship between neo-nazis, right-wing Christian groups, the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims—NOI), the Abu Sayyaf, and al-Qaida.

This, the sources pointed out, was what prompted the Philippine government to accept US military aid in the form of Balikatan in Basilan.

The Abu Sayyaf and other Muslim insurgent groups are no longer just internal Philippine problems, the sources stressed. They have become part of a global terror network that includes “very strange bedfellows.”

Angeles pals

Before slain Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) co-founder Edwin Angeles surrendered in 1994 to military authorities at the Armed Forces Southern Command (Southcom) in Zamboanga City, he met with Ramzi Youssef, convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.

That meeting, which also had four other Filipinos and foreign Muslim extremists, was unique—in that the group was meeting for the last time with Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols.

Nichols had married Filipino women but he was a strange ally, being a member of the American ultra-right movement.

But even before that, in 1993, when the Abu Sayyaf was in its infancy, the same group met with Nichols and another American—believed to have been executed Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh—at a Dole labeling plant near General Santos City.

Spilling the beans

According to the defense intelligence source, while under tactical interrogation, Angeles told National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) and Philippine National Police (PNP) officials that the subjects at the 1994 meeting were actual terror targets. He mentioned the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, bombed April 19, 1995, and another, more damaging attack on the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York.

It became clear that an international terror cell had been established in the Philippines.

Philippine cops arrested an accomplice of Youssef in 1995, while trying to track down members of an assassination plot on visiting Pope John Paul II. Youssef was later arrested in Pakistan, an operation that owed a lot to Philippine intelligence inputs.

Reluctance

“It took Sept. 11 to unleash a ‘no-stones-unturned’ campaign against global terrorism,” confirmed a top-ranking police officer who regularly liaisons with American anti-terrorist officers.

US officials, he added, have privately admitted they knew for sometime that the Philippines was a primary service and training area for jihad (holy war) terrorists and other terror groups, including American and European neo-nazis.

“The US knew all along that McVeigh, Nichols, and other rightists have had a tactical alliance with the Abu Sayyaf,” a confidential source in Boulder, Colorado also told the Times.

“But to go after the Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines would be a violation of your country’s sovereignty. The joint military training exercises (Balikatan) present a legitimate excuse for clandestine US operations against the Abu Sayyaf.”

Concerns

However, the US-based source said the Abu Sayyaf is only part of the problem.

“It’s only the wagging tail. The head remains hidden in Ermita, Davao City, General Santos City, and in America’s heartland. Going after the Abu Sayyaf is like cutting off a lizard’s tail. It will only grow a new one,” the source stressed.

While Philippine officials blame Americans for inaction, US authorities told THE TIMES they are bothered by the failure of the local intelligence community to conduct preemptive operations against the nests of global terrorism here.

Volumes of documents, many of which are court documents, establish enough evidence that the Philippines is a major service area for global terrorists, not all of whom are Muslim. Had both the US and the Philippines acted in preemptive operations to break the terror networks here, they could have prevented the carnage of Sept. 11, the American source admitted.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abusayyaf; ramziyoussef; terrorwar; terrynichols
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To: OKCSubmariner
thanks for the ping!
and bump!
21 posted on 02/18/2002 7:01:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: JerseyHighlander,JeepInMazar,Marianne,rdavis,ratcat,Waco Uppo,STARWISE,archy,Fred Mertz,Prodigal
Response to reply #19:

The details are in the Writ of Mandamus filed MArch 25, 1996 by Stephen Jones before the Tenth Circuit of appeals. I have a copy and so do most of the major new outlests in America (Fox-Rita Cosby,ABC,NBC,CBS) because I mailed it to them and discussed it with them in 1996. They all refused to cover the document even though it was intehir hands. It was even posted in part on the New American website at one time.

There were two witnesses who placed Nichols at a meeting with Abu Sayyaf members Edwin Angeles and Wali Khan. Khan is now in FBI custody and set up Abu Sayyaf for Bin LAden (bag man). Jones quotes his sources (CLear helped with this) about this meeting in his Writ of Manms.

I have heard reports going back for five years about McVeigh being in the Phillipines allegedly from CIA operatives working in the Phillipines on drug smuggling interdiction operations and monitoring the Communist and Abu Sayyaf terror activites there.

The Phillipines have been a known major training base for ALQaeda terrorists for many years, before the OKC bombing in 1995.

22 posted on 02/18/2002 7:10:09 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: concerned about politics,Phil V.
Please see replies #20 and #22. Thanks.
23 posted on 02/18/2002 7:12:10 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thank you re McVeigh being in the Philippines.
Edwin Angeles is a new name for me. My he has (had) an interesting background.
Edwin Angeles: The spy who came in from the cold:
     HALF-TAUSUG, Edwin Angeles aka Ibrahim Yakub, was a government spy tasked with infiltrating a new group in Basilan propagating Muslim fundamentalism. Angeles would lead the group into kidnap for ransom activities, blurring forever the lines between agent and bandit. LINK
(note: the link is the result of a "google search" -- reliability unknown)
24 posted on 02/18/2002 7:36:01 PM PST by Marianne
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To: Fred Mertz
Nichols had been to the PI-southern islands no less ( Moro/moslem dominated region). I believe he is or was married to a filipina.
26 posted on 02/18/2002 8:24:50 PM PST by lawdog
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To: OKCSubmariner
You mean Fidelity Bravery and Integrity would know this and do nothing ? Why I'm shocked..okay so I'm not so shocked. Nothing to see here it was two, talk radio,right- wing,gun nut, 'milita types'...no one knew...etc. etc.
27 posted on 02/18/2002 8:29:19 PM PST by lawdog
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To: OKCSubmariner
and to all of you others out there.. and you know who you are...you have the audacity to claim that the Bureau has good and legitimate reasons that it refuses to record it's "interviews".
28 posted on 02/18/2002 8:37:22 PM PST by lawdog
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To: ratcat,lawdog,rdavis84,golitely,Plummz,Fred Mertz,Marianne,STARWISE,concerned about politics,nuny
Read the article linked in reply #24 by Marianne about what happened to Edwin Angeles. The USG put him on ice to shut him up after the Phillipine government falsely said they could no longer find Angeles.

IMHO, We have extremely poor performance in the current DOJ and FBI and CIA under GW Bush, Ashcroft and Mueller and Tenet for not doing anything about the Clinton, Freeh, Tenet and Reno coverups of the OKC bombing. See a name repeated in these lists? It is Tenet!

Marianne, please see ratcat's reply #25

29 posted on 02/18/2002 8:48:22 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: JerseyHighlander,VOA
See replies #24 to #29 for more on the Phillipines and those who are to have met with Nichols!
30 posted on 02/18/2002 8:51:12 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Free the USA
BTTT!
31 posted on 02/18/2002 8:56:51 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Registered
While you're in the mood...
32 posted on 02/18/2002 9:00:24 PM PST by kristinn
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To: concerned about politics,Marianne,lawdog,golitely,Fred Mertz,Plummz,thinden,Travis McGee,archy,ra
Concerned about politics, do you recall when and where you recall reading this from your reply #10:

"He refused to fund it, and told the Philliphines to send them home, and not aid them."

Who are you referring to when you write send "them" home and not aid "them"? This is important. If you can help in any way on this please contact me. Thanks.

33 posted on 02/18/2002 9:02:03 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: kristinn
Fanning the flames buddy!
34 posted on 02/18/2002 9:18:41 PM PST by Registered
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To: kcvl,DoughtyOne
BTTT!
35 posted on 02/18/2002 9:56:37 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: spycatcher
BTTT!
36 posted on 02/18/2002 10:00:30 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: SierraWasp
BTTT!
37 posted on 02/18/2002 11:18:52 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Reply to post#20: Makes sense U.S. Govt. wanted to cover up Iraqi connection to Mc Veigh. If it were known, the American people would have demanded an invasion of Iraq and the removal of Saddam, an action that the U.S. believed, and still does believe would destabilize the whole region. The U.S. did not, and does not, want Saddam removed. That is why Bush did not invade Iraq nor destroy all of Saddam's military after our victory in the gulf war. If Saddam and his army were removed, then the Shia's from Iran may have linked up with the Shia population of Iraq and took over the whole region which includes the oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. After that conquest, the Shia alliance may then have cast its gaze on Turkey which now would have sucked NATO into the melee and on and on and on.
38 posted on 02/18/2002 11:21:05 PM PST by A6M3
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To: OKCSubmariner
Do you think there might be a Mike Harari link in here somewhere? There seems to be a covert Filipino operation that has been cultivated and used by the Shadows. Remember this story? Harari has been connected to Noriega, (Saudi arms dealer) Adnan Khoshoggi, and the death of Col Nick Rowe in the Philippines. Just tossin' chum at this point.
39 posted on 02/19/2002 5:28:58 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: Marianne
[Hatemonger] Farrakhan blasts war on terrorism, urges trial of Bush.
40 posted on 02/19/2002 6:41:31 AM PST by aristeides
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