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How schools are tricked into using PCs--when Macs are better
Zdnet ^ | 2/11/02 | Bob Shier

Posted on 02/12/2002 4:51:44 AM PST by Vermonter

Editor's note: AnchorDesk is pleased to present guest columnist Bob Shier. A public school educator for more than 30 years, Shier lives in the Kansas City, Missouri area.

As an instructor of computer literacy in an all-Windows environment, I'm sometimes asked "would I ever consider using a Mac?" My answer: in a heartbeat!

So why am I teaching on Windows machines? Two reasons: peer pressure (we all accept that adolescents are slavishly conformist, but don't always recognize that the herd instinct is still present among adults), and false economies.

OFTEN, "fiscal responsibility" is cited as the reason to choose Windows over Macs. I suggest that there are two kinds of economy involved here: an out-of-the-box economy, and a down-the-road economy.

Of course, schools buy the cheapest boxes they can find--we're taxpayer funded, after all. Windows machines can be purchased for a somewhat lower initial investment.

Almost at once, however, the down-the-road aspect of the platform decision comes into play.

Here's my historical perspective.

FOR TEN YEARS, our school had an all-Mac lab. After a couple of years, they weren't as flashy as the new PCs in other district labs. But they kept chugging along year after year, doing exactly what we asked.

I did all hardware and software support as well as maintenance on the Macs, which amounted to cleaning the mice a couple of times a year and wiping off a monitor screen now and then.

Now that we have an all-Windows environment, I'm lucky to ever have more than 28 out of 30 machines functioning at any one time. Often less. I've started secretly hoping that some students will be sick from school during each class, just so nobody has to do without.

Regardless of how often technical-support people come, or how many things they fix, more problems show up as soon as they leave. If it's not bad memory, it's bad power supplies. If it's not bad motherboards, then it's bad hard drives. And when it's none of those, it's a software glitch that nobody has a clue how to fix.

For the tech support people, the time lag between my reporting a problem and its resolution may seem a minor matter. However, the phrase "mission critical" takes on new meaning as each new crop of impatient, exuberant, and hormonally enhanced adolescents enters my room each period.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT of staff time required just to keep these machines functional is an order of magnitude higher than what we experienced with the Macs. It almost defies belief.

Worse, the false economy of PCs is mostly buried under a ton of paper somewhere in the yearly budget document. In our case, personnel costs come from an entirely different piece of the budget pie than computer hardware.

Along with the false economy with Windows, I also can't find any real academic reason to go with the platform.

Over the past dozen or so years, PCs blanketed businesses everywhere and adults became more technologically comfortable. And parents started telling me to replace my Macs with PCs.

Their admonitions and opinions were not based upon any analysis of the efficiency and efficacy of computers in an educational environment. Rather, it was simply whatever they were using at work and whatever machine their friends had.

THE PARENTAL DEMAND that we teach kids to use "what's out there" is well-meant. It's based upon an understandable desire that children should become employable--that they should be able to conform to the prevalent platform of the workplace. The fact that the "prevalent platform" is in a constant state of flux is another matter entirely.

I'll add that just because you learn to drive in a Ford does not preclude you from eventually driving a Chevy. Same difference with standard productivity applications, such as Microsoft Office, which is available across platforms. But then, any general operation in a Mac application will be much the same in comparable Windows software, even if the exact machinations necessary to effect a result are slightly different.

For simple elegance of design, ease of use, and economy of operation, there's simply no comparison between the two platforms. If you want to work for the machine, go with Windows. If you want the machine to work for you, go with the Mac.

And that's what I really want for my students.


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To: Stuck in Arkansas
You say that as if it were a bad thing.

Homosexuality is a personally destructive lifestyle. So, yes, it is a bad thing.

Are you a homophobe or something?

The fact that someone disapproves of another's lifestyle does not mean he is afraid or hateful toward that person. Do you not grasp this concept?

Face it. Mac users are simply more enlightened and progressive than the typical Windoze user.

You're a legend in your own mind.
141 posted on 02/12/2002 9:44:11 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: toupsie
You can save tons of money by moving to MySQL from ORacle if you don't need the super high end functions of Oracle.

Like foreign keys? Or sub-selects? :-P

Sorry...couldn't resist. MySQL has its place, and I do use it for certain things. As an Oracle replacement, it's a bit weak.

I use Interbase; PostgreSQL is also a reasonable option.

142 posted on 02/12/2002 9:45:13 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: dighton
ROTF!!!!!
143 posted on 02/12/2002 9:45:31 AM PST by Dawgsquat
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To: Stuck in Arkansas
You say that as if it were a bad thing. Are you a homophobe or something?

Somebody made the observation that socialists like Macs. I responded with the observation that gay guys like Macs too. It was a simple observaton. Why would you think there is something bad with that? Are you a homophobe or something?

144 posted on 02/12/2002 9:55:55 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Vermonter
Macs have always had a more efficient system compared to PCs, but why teach kids on computers that they will NEVER see in the real world????
145 posted on 02/12/2002 10:08:51 AM PST by A. Patriot
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To: Vermonter
I hate Macs. They drive me friggin' crazy. I hate the look, the default fonts, the screen, the way you have to mouse-click on something to eject the friggin' floppy, the retarded commercials, the stupid gay apple logo, and most of all I hate the smiley computer. I detest everything about Macs. Gimme a PC any day.

/rant

146 posted on 02/12/2002 10:14:51 AM PST by maxwell
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To: homeschool mama
Interesting stuff mama, I agree that Macs are the better machine. History shows that. The overall problem is the price. Price to update, add to, and fix.

Its just like buying a Mercedes. It costs more and runs real sweet for a long time, but parts and maintenance are pretty expencive.

On the other hand you can buy a chevy for a lot less $ and work on it yourself.

As for all the other banter on this thread, I thought the line about answering your door naked when the J-Dubs come a callin useful.

147 posted on 02/12/2002 10:32:05 AM PST by Fidgit
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To: maxwell
Quit sugar coating it, give us your real opinion.

What about all those swell colors?

148 posted on 02/12/2002 10:35:16 AM PST by Fidgit
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To: toupsie
Nice flame, but can you find any place on any thread where I have said PCs are better than Macs?
149 posted on 02/12/2002 10:35:56 AM PST by js1138
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To: B Knotts
I think it's because almost nobody bothers to treat hard drives like the fragile equipment that they are. Ever go to a computer show and see a bunch of hard drives stacked up without so much as bubble wrap for protection? I wouldn't buy one of those!
150 posted on 02/12/2002 10:59:25 AM PST by brianl703
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To: boris
Teach them Visual Basic, or "C" (if you insist). I prefer Fortran and assembly language but I am a dinosaur.

C makes the world go round.

151 posted on 02/12/2002 11:13:31 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Fidgit
What about all those swell colors?

They're gay. Gimme my ol' scruffy industrial white Gateway any day.

152 posted on 02/12/2002 11:15:28 AM PST by maxwell
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To: Don Joe
No, but I tend to think it displays the intellectual bankruptcy of those who use the line.
153 posted on 02/12/2002 12:10:10 PM PST by jejones
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To: toupsie
Then there was the claim of some level of security (C2, perhaps?) for Windows NT...but the fine print said that to be that secure, the machine running NT couldn't be connected to any network.
154 posted on 02/12/2002 12:12:26 PM PST by jejones
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To: OK
I'll be the ignorant one and ask what is that?

The SGI O2+ os a computer made by Silicon Graphics that usually runs a flavor of unix called Irix and is a pretty sweet workstation used for imaging, simulations, graphics and 3D animations.

They have some other extremely high end machines too. The downside is that most companies don't exactly have one on each desk due to the cost...

155 posted on 02/12/2002 12:22:25 PM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: thatsnotnice

156 posted on 02/12/2002 12:27:15 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Vermonter
I always thought the reason most are going to PCs is that MAC only makes up only 3% of computer users. So the children need to learn to use what will be used in the real world.
157 posted on 02/12/2002 12:30:36 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Be that as it may, what these kids are going to be seeing in a network environtment is NT, Win2K, HP-UX, Solaris, Novell and a host of others. Not Mac OS. That was my point.

MacOS supports and can serve all those protocols except Novell -- but then again, Novell is deader than Amiga. Solaris is about to hit the skids as Sun is looking to cut over to Linux.

Apple is in a very strong position with its open source core as it can take about every package available for BSD-based UNIX and compile it.

Companies are fleeing M$ Servers. The last year has shown that IIS is nothing but garbage -- sneeze near it and it opens up a free port for a Trojan. M$'s next version will be a complete rewrite from what I have read.

158 posted on 02/12/2002 12:46:37 PM PST by toupsie
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To: jejones
Then there was the claim of some level of security (C2, perhaps?) for Windows NT...but the fine print said that to be that secure, the machine running NT couldn't be connected to any network.

I think Windows NT can be classified as C2 by the NSA if it is not connected to a network and is buried in three feet of concrete with the PS/2 & USB ports are removed and no monitor is attached.

159 posted on 02/12/2002 12:48:34 PM PST by toupsie
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