Missing Danielle Parents Allegedly Swingers

Larry King Live ^ | Brenda & Damon Van Dam

[Petronski]

Larry asked them about it just now on Larry King Live (2-11-2), and they refused to deny it.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Oh! wait! You know these things!

Because he's been posting here for some time, and I've seen this poster before (laughing)......really Luis, get a grip!

Oh I know. Why don't we ask him/ her?

[He Rides A White Horse]

Your friend on the white horse is talking a lot of talk.

As I've said before, I'm not the rider on the white horse...but I'm sure you've already came across that reading the Bible in the umpteen languages you claim to have.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I know Rome2000, personally. I don't have to ask him.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Should the kids of unfaithful parents be removed from their homes??

Should people who plan on setting a poor example for children get married and have children in the first place?

I know, that one will fly right over your head.

[He Rides A White Horse]

I know Rome2000, personally. I don't have to ask him.

Well then, is he?......;)

[Greg Weston]

If you wanted to avoid the question you could have merely not replied at all.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Personally, I feel honored that such people despise me."

The first deadly sin.

[He Rides A White Horse]

If you wanted to avoid the question you could have merely not replied at all.

If these liassons lead to the endangerment of the children involved, if Mom and Dad negligently exposed their children to people they knew or had good cause to suspect were a danger then yes.

H**l yes.

[He Rides A White Horse]

The first deadly sin.

Matthew 10:22

10:22 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Hardly.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Does that help Greg?

[He Rides A White Horse]

Is this where you start calling me a 'statist', why, because golly, if we punish people who endanger kids, well, it's a slippery slope (breaking up here, really)

[He Rides A White Horse]

I know Rome2000, personally. I don't have to ask him.

By the way, I'm still waiting for your answer. (grin)

[Greg Weston]

Well then at this point where there has been no proof whatever that Danielle's parents "knew or had good cause to suspect were a danger", you must disagree with those on the forum who have said the Van Dam's other 2 kids should be removed from them.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Still there, Bella_Bru?.........or did the wind shift unfavorably?

[Luis Gonzalez]

That's not for me to answer.

[Luis Gonzalez]

If I read that right, it says "endure".

"We aren't instructed to celebrate it, however."

[He Rides A White Horse]

.....you must disagree with those on the forum who have said the Van Dam's other 2 kids should be removed from them.

Do I believe that guilt must be established in any matter before taking such an action? Of course..........

........do I think they are pigs, who probably shouldn't subject their kids to such a situation?......of course.

Do I feel as if I shouldn't express my opinion on such a matter, because I may 'offend' somebody?.......no way, Jose.

Do I have a feeling that something monsterous is going to come to light, based on the things that I've reading here, and based on the way they seem to be acting, etc.?(my 'feeling', I realize)..........you bet. Bookmark this thread, Greg.

[He Rides A White Horse]

No Luis, you know better than that. You know as well as I do that bringing sinful actions of people to their attention is not an 'unChristian' thing to do. We are not told to shut up and go sit in a corner. You know it.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Jonah 1:1-1:10

1:1 Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,

1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

1:3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the LORD.

1:4 But the LORD sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.

1:5 Then the mariners were afraid, and cried every man unto his god, and cast forth the wares that [were] in the ship into the sea, to lighten [it] of them. But Jonah was gone down into the sides of the ship; and he lay, and was fast asleep.

1:6 So the shipmaster came to him, and said unto him, What meanest thou, O sleeper? arise, call upon thy God, if so be that God will think upon us, that we perish not.

1:7 And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil [is] upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah.

1:8 Then said they unto him, Tell us, we pray thee, for whose cause this evil [is] upon us; What [is] thine occupation? and whence comest thou? what [is] thy country? and of what people [art] thou?

1:9 And he said unto them, I [am] an Hebrew; and I fear the LORD, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry [land].

1:10 Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and said unto him, Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from the presence of the LORD, because he had told them.

........what do you glean from this, Luis?

[FresnoDA]

Back to the story, and the thread folks!!!

Phillips followed up with, "No romantic involvement ever with Mr. Westerfield?"

"None," Brenda van Dam said. "Absolutely none at all."

Media gobble up every scrap of information on missing girl

By Preston Turegano Union-Tribune Arts/Entertainment Writer February 11, 2002

The disappearance of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam has been fertile ground for the news media.

Like soldiers on bivouac, newspaper and magazine reporters, San Diego's seven TV news stations, local radio news operations, TV crews from Los Angeles, and TV tabloids such as "Inside Edition" have been camped out near the van Dam home in Sabre Springs.

The press last mobilized on a local story en masse 11 months ago when shootings occurred within weeks of each other at Santana and Granite Hills high schools in East County.

Danielle's story has had TV-friendly aspects, thanks largely to the girl's parents, who have not shied away from cameras, and home video of Danielle romping in her home (hauntingly reminiscent of JonBenet Ramsey, the little girl found slain in her Boulder, Colo., home in 1996).

Last week, Brenda and Damon van Dam briefly came out of their home to acknowledge the press' role in the search for their daughter. On the air, one TV reporter described the scene as "a media frenzy." Four stations … KNSD/Channel 39, KFMB/Channel 8, KUSI/Channel 51 and KGTV/Channel 10 … carried the van Dams' noontime statement live.

The next day, "Jeff & Jer" of KFMB/FM 100.7 urged listeners to obtain and distribute fliers with Danielle' s photo. Down the hall from "Jeff & Jer's" studio, KFMB/AM 760 talk show host Rick Roberts dropped a bombshell Friday night by quoting an unnamed source in law enforcement who implicated van Dam neighbor David Westerfield in Danielle's disappearance, and who provided Roberts with detailed information about the van Dams' private life.

The nation's notice of Danielle was emphasized when Brenda and Damon van Dam talked to NBC's "Today Show," ABC' s "Good Morning America," CBS' "The Early Show," CNN's "Larry King Live" and Fox's "America's Most Wanted: America Fights Back." Each show featured the home videotape of Danielle, and a photograph of her posted on the Internet.

Three days before "America's Most Wanted" aired on Saturday, the van Dams gave local Fox affiliate XETV/Channel 6 a 20-minute "exclusive" interview on the 10 p.m. "Fox6 News" report. The interview wasn' t due so much to enterprise on behalf of reporter (and weekend anchor) Greg Phillips but more with XETV being an affiliate of a network that has a certain show.

XETV news director Alberto Pando said the van Dams asked "Fox6 News" to help in the search for their daughter by contacting "America's Most Wanted" and the station obliged. After Walsh interviewed the van Dams, they granted Channel 6's request for the one-on-one sit-down interview, Pando said.

In no way can Channel 6 be faulted for this. After all, CBS affiliate KFMB/Channel 8 capitalizes and cross-promotes "Survivor" on its news shows, and NBC-owned KNSD/Channel 39 has been doing the same with the Winter Olympics.

Phillips' interview was shown in bits and pieces during the hour-long evening newscast. At one point, he titillated viewers by saying, "After a short break, the parents of the little girl address rumors on the Internet and in the media that they' re both swingers, and if they believe those rumors are significant to the investigation."

Phillips deserves kudos for apparently being the first to go down a path other media outlets were avoiding.

But instead of asking the van Dams directly, "Are you swingers?" or "Are you members of a couples' husband-wife swapping club?" Phillips said, "You've heard the rumors. As there are in many cases that receive national attention, whether they are true or not, do they have any significance to the investigation in who may have kidnapped Danielle?"

Brenda van Dam answered by saying, "They have absolutely nothing to do with this investigation. Rumors are rumors. And I just pray they are not taking the focus off of finding Danielle."

Phillips followed up with, "No romantic involvement ever with Mr. Westerfield?"

"None," Brenda van Dam said. "Absolutely none at all."

Westerfield has been besieged by the media, too. TV cameras and reporters repeatedly have blocked his way every time he' s stepped in or out of his home. Early in the investigation, detectives twice searched Westerfield' s home. Once, they removed 13 bags of property, seized two vehicles and took him on a tour of the desert where he said he spent the weekend of Feb. 2 and 3.

During the Phillips interview, the van Dams praised John Walsh, host of "America' s Most Wanted." They called Walsh "a wonderful man" and "a great person."

Obviously, Walsh empathizes with the van Dams. In 1981, Walsh and his wife, Reve, were plunged into the national spotlight when their 6-year-old son, Adam, was abducted and later found murdered.

In the case of Danielle van Dam, it seems, at least by watching TV, that an entire nation is praying her story doesn' t end the same way.