Doctor Troubled By Pain Of Infants In Abortion

DA*DI ^ | 2/11/2002 | Dr. Thomas Messe

[J.R.R. Tolkien]

Doctor Troubled by Pain of Infants in Abortion

February 8, 2002
www.massnews.com
Letters to the Editor
Thomas V. Messe, M.D.

As a physician, I am always concerned about the level of pain my patients have. One group of people who never receive attention to their level of pain is unborn children. Many scientists have discovered that unborn children experience pain as early as seven weeks gestation. This has been shown by accelerations in their heart rate and brain waves during an abortion. There is no question that a baby in the 2nd and 3rd trimester experiences pain during an abortion. I would like to see legislation passed that makes women aware of fetal pain and gives them the option of receiving some sort of pain medicine during the procedure.

Saline abortions are probably the most painful procedures for infants. This technique is used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby. A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and 50-250 ml (as much as a cup) of amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 33 to 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned, shriveled baby. About 97% of mothers deliver their dead babies within 72 hours.

The "Dilation and Extraction" (D&X), or "intact D&E" (IDE) is sometimes referred to as Partial Birth Abortion. This procedure is used on women who are 20- to 32-weeks pregnant -- or even later into pregnancy. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs the unborn baby’s leg with forceps and pulls the baby into the birth canal, except for the head, which is deliberately kept just inside the womb. (At this point in a partial-birth abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the abortionist jams scissors into the back of the baby’s skull and spreads the tips of the scissors apart to enlarge the wound.

After removing the scissors, a suction catheter is inserted into the skull and the baby’s brains are sucked out. The collapsed head is then removed from the uterus.

Animals in veterinarian offices and in research labs are not allowed to suffer like this. Why do we let members of our own race suffer in this fashion 1.5 million times a year? Let’s make it a law that these victims receive anesthesia.

- Thomas V. Messe, M.D.
Groton, CT

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[J.R.R. Tolkien]

[Khepera]

Good morning.

Thanks for the heads up!

[Khepera]

[MetalHeadConservative35]

JESUS THATS *%%*^%* SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok...abortion doctors should be tried and convicted for murder eiether that or they should be shot on sight!

[Khepera]

AlGore and partial Birth Abortion Graphic

[Hank Kerchief]

Many scientists have discovered that unborn children experience pain as early as seven weeks gestation. This has been shown by accelerations in their heart rate and brain waves during an abortion.

Another spurious argument damaging the cause of all those who are opposed to abortion. Accelerated heart rates and "brain waves" occur in people under anesthesia when they are operated on. We know they feel no pain. Since the unborn are essentially "asleep" (under permanent anesthesia) the correct assumption is that they feel nothing, and their reactions are like those who are anesthetised.

Please stop arming the pro-abortion movement with this totally emotional and irrational drivel. If you beleive abortion is immoral, it is immoral to use dishonest methods to defend that view.

Hank

[Khepera]

Violence is not acceptable when dealing with Abortion Doctors. Please do not suggest that position since it makes you no better than they are. Only legal means of dealing with abortion is acceptable.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

yeah i know shootin them aint the best thing to do well i think a murder charge still applies

[Khepera]

The Hard, Dirty, Stinking, Terrifying Truth About Legalized Abortion

• One Day, not so long ago, one of our allies managed to infiltrate a Laboratory in Southern California that receives the babies killed by a particular chain of abortion "clinics". The pictures she took provide you an overview of what legalized abortion looks like up close and dirty.
• Each of those plastic jars contains one little dead person.  The mother's name and the date of the abortion are written on the labels.

• Look closely and you can make out the names of the mothers as well as some of the actual body parts of the children they sacrificed on the altar of the demon of self-indulgence.

• This one stack of receipts documents the babies slaughtered at Family Planning Association, 8888 Fletcher Parkway, La Mesa, California, in one day.
• The laboratory we infiltrated receives babies' bodies from many such "clinics".

• The containers come in all sizes.  These are the largest, containing babies between 20 to 36 weeks old.
• Notice the stains of evil covering the containers.

• It gets no easier to look at the actual caskets of hundreds of little people conceived by God and slaughtered in direct rebellion against God's will..

• Like Legalized Abortion itself, the stains of evil are horrible to behold.

• The least among the babies are bagged like groceries destined for satan's table.

• This gives you a glimpse at the contents of the smallest containers. This person was eights weeks from conception when butchered.

• Look closely at the words printed on the box and you will see the horrible paradox created when babies are killed and babies are birthed in the same facilities.

[Khepera]

Hello? Is this the Rotweiler Womans Progressive Health Center? It is? Is Dr. Tiller there? He is? Can you give him a message? You will? What? No! I'm not a patient but I need to talk to him about my Mommy. Yes, Yes thats right I'll hold.

Dr Tiller? Hi My Name is Sheri and you saw my mommy in there a couple of years ago! Yes she's fine. No you didn't get to give her an abortion. No, she is OK. No, those Religious people talked to her after her first visit to you and she was drawn to Jesus Christ. I just wanted you to know if it where up to me you would be on trial for murder! Hello? Hello? Dr. Tiller?

Dang he hanged up on me!

[Khepera]

Graphics are more informational than speculation.

[crystalk]

I think abortionists, feminists, and supreme court justices will all be reincarnated as unwanted fetuses, not once but many times over, and be salted out or chopped to bits not once, but thousands and thousands of times over.

So far, no one has shown me that they will not. My belief gives me great comfort.

[MetalHeadConservative35]

dang ive never seen anything so graphic...

[Khepera]

[A CA Guy]

It is because of things like abortion that we as a country are believed to no longer be under the protection of God. I said that for years before Falwell and Robertson spoke about it.

[jennyp]

What does this have to do with creation vs. evolution?

[Hank Kerchief]

Graphics are more informational than speculation.

You know that is not true, unless you prefer emotion to reason. I assure you, your graphics may stimulate those who are already opposed to abortion to be even more emotionally irrational, but they will never convince those who believe abortion is OK. I know your heart is in the right place, but your methods will not accomplish what you desire. If the goal is fewer abortions, your methods will only arm the opposition.

Do you really prefer people to make their choices based on feeling rather than right reason?

Hank

[Brad’s Gramma]

We change the laws, legally. We change hearts, one by one. We pray earnestly. That's it.

[Khepera]

Ya want a piece of me?