[Dog Gone]

First I've heard of this.

[scholar]

Great article. Thank you. I have done some research on Hitler and the Third Reich but never ran across this. Obviously will have to do some more research.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

hmmmmm. So now Hitler was gay? And all this time I thought he was just a paranoid anti-semetic who figured he could rule the world.

I always thought he looked at Hermann Goering funny in those old newsreels.

[Shermy]

Sounds like Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

[Thud]

Which is why so many German homosexuals were murdered in concentration camps.

The Nazis were psychotic killers. Of everybody.

I expect the next article on the subject to blame Jews for it too.

[tang-soo]

Several months ago, I heard an interview on Dr. Stanley Monteith's radio show (Radio Liberty) of an author who's book dealt with this. It was called The Pink Swastika - by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. I did a google search on Pink Swastika and found many references.

[The KG9 Kid]

Nazis wore flamboyant costumes as uniforms. Lots of silver trim, fashionable black, and fancy armbands. Some Nazi uniforms even had pink piping along the fringes. Just look at their officer's hats, for crying out loud. Don't even get me started on the Nazis' shiny knee-high boots.

Heterosexuals on the other hand, wore plain olive drab trousers, socks, shirts, and coats.

Guess who won WWII? ;-]

[elbucko]

Whether Hitler was a pansy or not is one of those questions like; Is there life on other planets?

The answer in the affirmative or negative is profound.

[Khepera]

Looks like you desire a Nazi atmosphere to me OWK

[FrogMom]

I have read hints before that Hitler swung both ways. And outright assertions that his inner circle was very homosexual. He gathered thugs around him that he "had the goods on" so they would do EXACTLY what he wanted.

[sphinx]

Their sexual ideal was the man-boy relationship extolled and engaged in by the Greeks, Crusaders and Teutonic knights.

Hitler's possible homosexuality is an old story (on which I'm agnostic), but this is the first time I've run across this assertion about Crusaders and Teutonic knights. Anybody know what that is based on?

[illbenice]

I hate defending this ass, but this is obviously revisionist history at it's worst. The author never offers any evidence that prove Adolf was a fairy. Some how the fact that these idea's were put in print is supposed to make us beleive they are true? I have no time for this non-sense.

[Pharmboy]

...the Munich Post attacked "the disgusting hypocrisy that the party demonstrates — outward moral indignation while inside its own ranks the most shameless practices prevail," and said that "every knowledgeable person knows that inside the Hitler party the most flagrant whorishness contemplated by paragraph 175 (defining homosexuality as a criminal offense) is widespread." Machtan confirms that Nazi hypocrisy, noting how "homosexuality was simultaneously proscribed and protected: Hitler had tailored it to his political and personal requirements."

Sounds a bit like the late Roy Cohn, eh?

[OKSooner]

Yes. Hitler was a flaming sodomite and everything else. May he burn in hell forever.

[crystalk]

We went through this all 60 years ago. Whether Hitler had a couple youthful crushes on male friends, or even experimented with gay sex a few times, can perhaps never be known for sure.

What is known is that from age 29 or 30 on he did not practice anything of the kind, and in fact had a steady thing with Eva Braun for some 9-10 years before their joint suicide in 1945.

I say this NOT because I think he was anything other than a monster, but because now as then, it was too convenient to say that, oh well, he is one of THOSE, I am NOT one of those, none of my crowd are, and...to lose any moral compass at all in the matter.

I doubt any higher percentage of leading Nazis were gay, than of leading Washington personalities in the last few administrations, etc.

[crystalk]

We went through this all 60 years ago. Whether Hitler had a couple youthful crushes on male friends, or even experimented with gay sex a few times, can perhaps never be known for sure.

What is known is that from age 29 or 30 on he did not practice anything of the kind, and in fact had a steady thing with Eva Braun for some 9-10 years before their joint suicide in 1945.

I say this NOT because I think he was anything other than a monster, but because now as then, it was too convenient to say that, oh well, he is one of THOSE, I am NOT one of those, none of my crowd are, and...to lose any moral compass at all in the matter.

I doubt any higher percentage of leading Nazis were gay, than of leading Washington personalities in the last few administrations, etc.

[timydnuc]

I've done papers in college on Hitler and his, exhaulted Third Reich. I never came across anything more than the leader of the "Brown Shirt" National Party was probably a homosexueal, definately a bi-sexual. He was killed by Hitler and the elite faction of the party early in the take over of the government. Whether it was an attempt to hide Hitler's homosexuality, or an attempt to cleanse the party of perversion, I can't tell from the volumes that I read on the subject. This is an interesting presentation. If true, even partly, it would support Hitler's fanatacism with keeping the Reich pure. It would also explain his need to hide his homosexuality, at any cost. Hitler needed to expound a figure of "the lion", hence, Der Furer (the feared lion).

It is well known that Hitler was a strange and aloof person. He had well documented perversions. These texts can be documented and found on line. The Hitler texts go on forever. I have a hard time believing something written such a short time ago. I would think it's more speculation, than fact.

If any one is interested, don't venture past a publication of 1960, or so. They tend to get diluted and facts are few, and far between.

I don't have a "thing" for the Third Reich, or Adolf Hitler. I studied this, completely, in college for 2 papers in History (when they taught that in college). My intrigue with the subject went back to a story my Dad told me about liberating Ubergammergau (sp), a Nazi concentration camp. I couldn't believe that men could do that to other men. Then I saw it on TV..."The World At War". Daddy was right, they really did that. I had to find all about that, cause it was so against what I had been taught (know you enemy).

My point here is: Hitler could have been gay, straight, bi-sexual, or celebet, it wouldn't have mattered. First, and formost, the man was a brutal, and sadistic man. He was the first showing of the evil anti-Christ. He came to kill all Jews, after that he would have killed all Catholics, then he would have gone for the racially "impure". By that time he would have had all the "support" that he would have needed. That meant, if you weren't completely arian you were a dead man.

The thing that history teaches about Hitler is that, if one man can rule is over millions of people, alot of those people are going to die. Think about THAT! In reading all the volumes of the Third Reich, and Hitler, one thing came to mind: How could a man, a real man, a citizen, a patriot of his country do this to his fellow citizens. I found the answer! Hitler gave them a reason, then he talked them into it, then he lead them (willingly) to do it. Hate is easier to preace than God, and that's the damned shame of the Third Reich.

Know your enemy Patriots, history repeats...again...and, again!

[max61]

Does anyone really give a rat's ass about a dead dictator's sexuality?. If you do, your time could be used much more effectively.

---max

[WhiskeyPapa]

He spent the war years as a behind-the-lines messenger, enjoying a long and active sexual relationship with another runner, Ernst Schmidt. At war's end, Hitler returned to Munich and more homosexual activities.

Well, here's the deal. How much credit do you give the whole article when it's pretty well-known that Hitler was a front line soldier and that he won the highest award for bravery that an enlisted man could win?

Hitler was actually IN the hospital wounded at the end of the war. He was temporarily blinded by gas.

So I wonder about the rest of the article.

Walt

[VOA]

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