DECONSTRUCTING THE JFK MYTH

www.etherzone.com ^ | February 5. 2002 | SARTRE

[Angelique]

Wow! I forgot that there was the prohibition, and so I assume that would be the reason for the profit? Also, would Kennedy then be a member of the Irish mafia?

[Angelique]

I a, sorry, but I do not quite understand your post.

[RLK]

He and the family were high level political manipulators. It started with Honey Fitz Fitzgerald after whom JFK was named. The Irish have typically worked through shady politics. The last of the great Irish political mob bosses was Richard Daley senior who would march in the Saint Patrick's day parade every year wearing the green. Chicago was a politically crooked town with money under the table everywhere and people who had been dead for 20 years still voting, but a very well-run town. Since Daley's death, nobody has been able to run the city like Daley. When Kennedy was running for president, Daly threw the city of Chicago for him with the tombstone vote. As Daly told Kennedy, You'll carry the stae with the help of some friends.

The Fitzgeralds and Kennedys were earlier equivalents of the Daley organization in Boston and the Boston Irish. They did about anything they wanted to. Whether you would call it a mafia or not is a matter of personal taste. But it had an iron grip on Massachusetts politics. There were, and probably still are, some italians in Boston. They used to complain about the dirty Irish tricks because the Irish typically used a bit of ethnic-oriented political finesse.

[MI_too]

"Led by brother Ted, the whole repulsive family has infected politics throughout the country."

Maggots, feeding on the body politic!

[RLK]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/search?s=blue+eyes&ok=Search&m=any&o=score

Is the reference here for the story. It referees you to the Miami Herald. Using Jimmy Blue Eyes in their 2001 archives will get to the story. But they have changed policy and will charge you $2.50 to read it.

[nopardons]

It wasn't just Joe Kennedyd's illegal booze running. He was also a slime, when it came to the GREAT DEPRESSION . He tried to undermine the market on the very days thata it was hitting the skids. Others were trying , desperatey , to shore up the market ( not, BTW to line their own pockets, but to halt the downturn, for EVERYONE's sake, and were actually doing it ! ) ; Papa Joe went short, kept going short, and pulled some rather shady strings... which would have landed him on jail today. Joe was also SO innept, at the Court of St. James ( besides being PRO HITLER, and lecturing FDR about the " GOOD " Nazis and their GREAT plans, whwich got him , and his disgusting family uncereimoniously yanked out of England !), that he went so far asto mae demands on King George. Needless to say, this didn't sit too well with the King.

Not one person, but Jackie Kennedy, had EVER thought in terms of " CAMELOT " , regarding that presidency. Some time after the assaination , she hd E.B. White to lunch. He is the author of " THE ONCE AND FUTURE KING ", BTW, and kepet repeating , over, and over , and over again, that " CAMELOT " bildge. He finally " got the message ", and the rest, as they say, is history.

Where are the chapters, in today's history books, about WHY JFK was in Dallas, to begin wiwth ? He was ONLY there, becuase he was going to lose the nextx election, and even with LBJ as a runningmate, he WAS going to lose Texas ! Where are the chapters about the many steele strikes, which almost shsut down this nation, under JFK's watch , and which he mucked up horridly, by making rataher stupid speechs ? Hmmmmmmmm ? No books, no chapters in history books, no nothing; just lies/ propaganda / revisionist , psuedo history.

[breakem]

thanx, I'm a mafia info addict

[Shooter 2.5]

At least no one can accuse him of being Gay.

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At least not for a while anyway.

[RLK]

By all means get the comple set of the Sopranos series. Get Chazz Palminteri's A Bronx Tale, and his movie about Paul Castellano. These are the best portrayals of the mob.

[RLK]

Where are the chapters, in today's history books, about WHY JFK was in Dallas, to begin wiwth ? He was ONLY there, becuase he was going to lose the nextx election, and even with LBJ as a runningmate, he WAS going to lose Texas !

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Texas was in a state of revolt. I remember it was irst thought an angry right wing Texan must have hot him because of the hatred there for Kennedy. Kennedy was in big political trouble in many places. America had had enough of the Kennedys. His getting killed saved his presidency and made a saint out of him.

[Angelique]

Earlier in the thread the quote was attributed to a school. As far as Carter, didn't the "hide in waiting for the hostages to be released" President set quite the tone of decorum by interviewing with Playboy?

[Bush2000]

Thanks. I appreciate the reference.

[breakem]

got em. My favorite mafi book was "The Last Mafioso-The Story of Jimmy the Weasel Fratiani."

[breakem]

Most welcome. I have a good memory, but I'm a very lazy researcher.

[Angelique]

You have just painted the picture of a truly evil man. I have been told by backhoe on another thread with lots of links about FDR, and have learned about Alger Hiss, and the commie connection. How did Joe Kennedy wield so much power is the key question. Did he blackmail those in power? This is starting to sound like Clinton. Could this be the common denominator since Clinton certainly did not have any family connections in powerful places.

[Bush2000]

You hit that pretty damned close. I attended a lecture by Kennedy Latin American Affairs advisor Arthur Schlesinger in 1964 given before a left wing university faculty audience. Schlesinger said the free cubans "were and embarrassment left over from the Eisenhower administration " and were abandoned on the beach to be rid of them. The university audience laughed in approval.

I grew up in Miami, surrounded by Cuban refugees, and I remember hearing my Cuban friends' parents relating what Kennedy did to the Cubans. Kennedy was supposedly worried about igniting a conflict with the Russians. So he had the CIA provide training to Alpha 66 and other Cuban expatriate groups in secret camps out in the Everglades. All the while, he never told them that he was going to abandon them at the last minute. They were transported and deployed to the Bay of Pigs. And then the commanders on the warships sitting offshore were forced to listen to the pleading radio transmissions from the rebels, who were calling in support while the Cuban military chewed them to pieces on the beach. It's simple: Kennedy allowed those men to die. It was essentially murder. From what the liberal historians tell us, the Cuban guerillas were "misguided" and "foolish". What they don't tell you is that Kennedy, their patron saint, was a liar and a murderer. The country is better off without him.

[parsifal]

I will share a JFK experience with you. As I recall, I was in 4th grade when JFK was assassinated. I lived in a small town in southern Georgia. Our teacher came to our room in tears and told us that JFK has just been shot in Dallas and was dead. The whole room broke out into loud cheers. The teacher looked shocked. School was dismissed early.

I remember us riding our bikes toward home hollering, "Yea, Old Kennedy is dead!" In those parts Kennedy was not liked in the least. Of course when we reached home and our parents heard us cheering, they stopped us and told us that it was not appropriate to be happy when someone got killed, even if it was someone as bad as Kennedy.

I have never heard anyone else relate a tale like this. All us kids knew was that our parents hated him and reviled him loudly. I remember hushing up because I didn't want a spanking but it seemed hypocritical at the time. It took a while to understand. some oral history from parsy.

[Angelique]

Actually, you have hit on something. Hoover was supposedly gay.

[nopardons]

Yes, his assassination SAVED his presidency. It also saved his family's political pretentions.