Posted on 02/02/2002 9:22:59 PM PST by CommiesOut
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Ahhhmmmmmm ... howz that again???
To see what really happened to the various tribes of Israel, click on my Profile.
Seems like there's plenty of room to doubt that. The consensus of thought is they married their sisters. That does have the negative implication that it would have today. There is no reason to believe there would be genetic complications then, either.
I get it: you do not agree with me, therefore I am a Nazi. OK.
They did attempt to deJudaizing Judea, but that is not the same as ethic cleansing.
What would you call killing and dispersing a people, destroying all of thier cultural institutions, and trying to rease their history on the land?
Actually, I agree it was worse.
On the whole, Romans were marvelously adept at incorporating all sorts of folks into their realm.
Judea was part of Roman Empire since about 30 BCE. That did not mean that the Romans were tolerant. They institutied a policy of colonializtion that led to the revolts.
Statistics would no doubt be questionable and difficult with all of those parameters. In addition, however often Romans expelled folk, they also took in large numbers of folk.
The idspersal of Jews from Judea, was generally to other parts of the Empire, much of it to the Persian border and north into the Rhine Valley.
These people did not have social security numbers, so any one who wanted to return to Palestine without Judaism either practiced in secret or not a all could readily have done so.
You most of history, it was easy to tell who was a Jew. Check for circumcision.
The tribes are largely lost because of both their dispersal as well as increased interbreeding.
The term "Lost Tribes" reffer to those tribes that Split from the United Israelite Kingdom after Solomon's death and centered around Ephraim. These tribes were dispersed by the Assyrians around 700 BCE.
There are some remanents who remained in Israel and intermarried with Assyrians who settled there. These peoples practice a form of Judaism derived from that of the Northern Kingdom, completely seperate from standard Judaism. These people are known as Shmoronim or Samaritans.
The Romans were remarkably tolerant of anyone who didn't take up arms against them, just as it is no surprise to find Josephus with the Roman Army or the apostles traveling throughout the Roman world preaching their form of religion derived from Judaic roots.
Tell that to the Jews of Alexandria slauhgtered in 132CE.
> after Solomon's death and centered around Ephraim. These tribes were dispersed by the Assyrians around 700 BCE.
Right. Actually, transported to northern Iraq. They subsequently dispersed themselves.
> There are some remanents who remained in Israel and intermarried with Assyrians who settled there.
Yes. There were always stragglers. Likewise, there were some from the Southern Kingdom taken captive by the Assyrians and moved NorthEastward into the Northern Kingdoms captivity and subsequent diaspora.
> These peoples practice a form of Judaism derived from that of the Northern Kingdom,
Oops. The Northern Kingdom was never Jewish, thus did not practise any form of Judaism. Israelitish maybe, but not Jewish. Their primary religion became disobedience, and their punishment was becoming "Lost" for a prescribed period of time.
Regards ... LT
Yes, I am using the standard Biblical definition of Jewish as being a member of the Southern Kingdom.
> However, Judaism is the common term for those who practice the faith of Israelites as set forth in the Bible.
Not where I come from. That has no Biblical basis.
>Strictly speaking the Ten tribes were supposed to follow the Laws of Moses ....
The Lost Tribes punishment was for heathen behaviour, and they got theirs. The Jews (Southern Kingdom) also worshipped Baal and abandoned God and got theirs several generations later.
>they were dispersed
They were NOT dispersed, they were taken captive and moved. There is quite a difference.
When the Assyrians fell to the Babylonians ~620 BC, the Northern Kingdom in exile "took counsel among themselves" and decided not to return to their place of origin, but flee northward and westward. (A wise move, since the Southern Kingdom fell not long after.) Their numbers were so great it took a year and a half for them to pass through the headwaters of the Euphrates river and the Sarmartian gate in the Caucasus Mountains.
>...and lost to the gentiles...
No, they were not "lost to" anyone. Only their identity was lost as part of their punishment while in Assyrian captivity. If you check my Profile below you see the story. If you want the ENTIRE story, check out the book on the Assyrian tablets. It's all there, and in spades.
Unable to bring intelligent content to a discussion, he throws rocks and whines like a spoiled brat, then complains to the moderator about being persecuted. Wants other peoples threads pulled. Watch his threads and watch him wet his pants.
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