Posted on 02/02/2002 1:03:59 PM PST by ThJ1800
"... it is the nature and intention of a constitution to prevent governing by party, by establishing a common principle that shall limit and control the power and impulse of party, and that says to all parties, thus far shalt thou go and no further. But in the absence of a constitution, men look entirely to party; and instead of principle governing party, party governs principle."
party governs principle Paine predicted exactly what his beloved America has now become.
Q: Which party advocates(d) "the common good before the individual good"?
Or is this just a bunch of bull....
Go to google and search missing 13th or thirteenth amendment and you will reap bonanzas of info.
It's for real.
There are a few monarchists on my list, BTW, so the thread will be more interesting. :-)
martian_22, thanks for the link.
Why can't/don't we have any thinkers like this for leaders today?
I honestly don't think there's one single solitary politician alive that would even fathom such thoughts.
A red herring. The US government is founded to:
"form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."
Implementation of these principles requires some subordination of the good of certain individuals to that of the rest of us. For instance, it might be in my personal financial self-interest to kill and rob those I run into each day. The state is supposed to interfere with this "good" of mine.
The specific purpose of the entire Constitution is to provide a balance between the common good and individual goods. Any individual's "good," carried to an extreme, will interfere with or destroy the "goods" of others.
And You too martian_22.
There's a college website (Avolon, I think) that has early contracts signed by America with other countries.
After the Revolution Ben Franklin signed a contract with England to borrow money to help pay the costs of the Revolution and to keep America running. The king of England also bought up a contract America had with Holland, putting America deeper into debt with the king.
God said "Give unto Caesar, what is Caesar's". Maybe I'm a radical, but if Gods' own people don't own anything here, neither did Caesar, and neither do the elites who are trying to force us into world rule.
The world is close to another Rome....
So what is worse, overtly hereditary rule, or hereditary rule that masquerades as election of the most capable? Democracy has always been, and will always be, a fraud. To the extent that our optimates actually beleive that they were chosen on merit, they are merely delusional. But when they foist their fraudulent system on the rest of the world (i.e., Austria-Hungary and the German Empire) they are doing Satan's work.
redrock--Constitutional Terrorist
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