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To: ArGee
You are saying this against a backdrop of a G-d who is a tinpot dictator who only wants to rule mankind because He gets off on power.

That is a reasonable interpretation after reading the Old Testament.

We have the freedom to decide what is right and what is wrong. Always have. But we can decide that an all knowing, all loving G-d already knows the answer and just ask him, or we can hurt ourselves figuring it out for ourselves.

You assume he is all knowing and all loving, and it justifies in your own mind that you can trust his judgment. That's fine. But try to go the other way around. Look at his judgment (in the Old Testament) and then try to conclude that he is all knowing and all loving. It doesn't work for me.

Moreover, I am not the kind of person that would forego a ride on my scoot through the mountains of Wyoming, with all the dangers that accompany it, because someone with knowledge of the mountains of Wyoming tells me exactly how beautiful they are.

The joy of life is not receiving answers. The joy is the journey getting to them. God as the Great Palm Pilot in the Sky is of no value to me, although I can see how he can be of value to others.
121 posted on 02/08/2002 1:19:33 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
That is a reasonable interpretation after reading the Old Testament.

I strongly disagree. I have read the Old Testament several times and do not get that picture of G-d at all.

You assume he is all knowing and all loving, and it justifies in your own mind that you can trust his judgment.

I assume nothing. I know this to be true.

That's fine. But try to go the other way around. Look at his judgment (in the Old Testament) and then try to conclude that he is all knowing and all loving.

Works for me.

It doesn't work for me.

Do you want to deal in examples?

Moreover, I am not the kind of person that would forego a ride on my scoot through the mountains of Wyoming, with all the dangers that accompany it, because someone with knowledge of the mountains of Wyoming tells me exactly how beautiful they are.

A more apt analogy - you want to ride through a pass and someone with perfect understanding of weather tells you it will blizzard and you will be trapped in an avalanche unless you wait a week. Will you wait?

I'm going to presume that you actually check the weather first, and they are only right 50% of the time at best. Am I wrong? And is it wrong for you to check the weather before hopping on the Hog?

The joy of life is not receiving answers. The joy is the journey getting to them.

I disagree. The joy is living in the light so you can bear fruit. You prefer to live in the dark searching for the light. That doesn't bear fruit. It can give you the impression of purpose, but not its reality.

God as the Great Palm Pilot in the Sky is of no value to me, although I can see how he can be of value to others.

Value? What does value have to do with it? G-d simply is. You can share a relationship with Him or not, but it's not about value. It's about reality.

Shalom.

122 posted on 02/08/2002 1:27:36 PM PST by ArGee
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