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To: BikerNYC
That is a reasonable interpretation after reading the Old Testament.

I strongly disagree. I have read the Old Testament several times and do not get that picture of G-d at all.

You assume he is all knowing and all loving, and it justifies in your own mind that you can trust his judgment.

I assume nothing. I know this to be true.

That's fine. But try to go the other way around. Look at his judgment (in the Old Testament) and then try to conclude that he is all knowing and all loving.

Works for me.

It doesn't work for me.

Do you want to deal in examples?

Moreover, I am not the kind of person that would forego a ride on my scoot through the mountains of Wyoming, with all the dangers that accompany it, because someone with knowledge of the mountains of Wyoming tells me exactly how beautiful they are.

A more apt analogy - you want to ride through a pass and someone with perfect understanding of weather tells you it will blizzard and you will be trapped in an avalanche unless you wait a week. Will you wait?

I'm going to presume that you actually check the weather first, and they are only right 50% of the time at best. Am I wrong? And is it wrong for you to check the weather before hopping on the Hog?

The joy of life is not receiving answers. The joy is the journey getting to them.

I disagree. The joy is living in the light so you can bear fruit. You prefer to live in the dark searching for the light. That doesn't bear fruit. It can give you the impression of purpose, but not its reality.

God as the Great Palm Pilot in the Sky is of no value to me, although I can see how he can be of value to others.

Value? What does value have to do with it? G-d simply is. You can share a relationship with Him or not, but it's not about value. It's about reality.

Shalom.

122 posted on 02/08/2002 1:27:36 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Value? What does value have to do with it? G-d simply is. You can share a relationship with Him or not, but it's not about value. It's about reality.

Sure it's about value. You share a relationship with him because you view that relationship as valuable to you. There is nothing wrong with that. You are deciding what is valuable to you and acting on that decision. You choose to seek and have a relationship with God based on that decision of value.

I seek and desire to ride my bike because I see value in it for me. Does everyone see value in riding a scoot? Certainly not. But those who do will will be open to riding one.

Value has nothing to do with it? On the contrary, everything has to do with value. Everything you do, every relationship you have, every moral you hold, you do have and hold because you find value in it.
124 posted on 02/08/2002 7:14:30 PM PST by BikerNYC
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