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Kidnapped WSJ reporter a friend of Muslims
UPI
| 2/01/02
| SHAHID IQBAL
Posted on 02/01/2002 12:15:46 AM PST by kattracks
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To: OldFriend
So, you think we did the right thing when we bombed the aspirin factory in Sudan? Something wrong with Pearl pointing out the fallacy of clinton/albright declaring the place a chemical weapons plant? Read and think.....read and think.....read and think.....Thank you, OldFriend, you beat me to it. Did these folks NOT READ the article? Daniel Pearl's complaints about the abuses of US Foreign Policy are the same ones WE registered about x42's overseas forays. His foreign policy was all about saving his sorry white rear end; he would launch missles to deflect news coverage of his fun with Monica or his money grubbing.
What is interesting is the timing of this; these articles don't reflect Pearl's animosity toward the US as much as the fact he hated the abuse of our foreign policies. This article may be a way to entice these folks into letting him go by convincing them he's on their side when he actually may not be.
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posted on
02/01/2002 6:12:26 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Sloth
To transpose the commands of God for ancient Israel into the present is to completely rip them out of historical context. Please DO NOT put words in my mouth that "the JEWS are terrorists".
Cordially,
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posted on
02/01/2002 6:21:29 AM PST
by
Diamond
To: Sloth
Thanks for the scriptural history lesson.
How about some passages advising contemporary christians on how to conduct their lives? Something relevent today?
43
posted on
02/01/2002 6:28:02 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: Diamond
To transpose the commands of God for ancient Israel into the present is to completely rip them out of historical context. That is exactly correct. To use such passages to paint Christians (or Jews) as violent or terroristic is a complete misapplication of them. But why am I not seeing any desire to treat the Koran similarly? Why is context relevant in interpreting the Bible but not in the Koran? It's meaningless to pick out individual verses and try to build a case on them if no attempt is made to show that they are representative of the overall theme. If we Christians do not want people to twist or abuse the Bible, we should reciprocate by being honest in our approach to others' beliefs.
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posted on
02/01/2002 6:37:59 AM PST
by
Sloth
To: kattracks
...proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished.
To: kattracks
"his work was critical of U.S. actions, not congragulatory.""I was only kidding Mr. Rumsfeld, now can we get a little help down here Mr. Rumsfeld? Mr. Rumsfeld are you listening? I'm running out of time down here Mr. Rumsfeld! Hurry! Mr. Rumsfeld?...WAAA HAAA WAAA...
To: bluester
....and that's it? No other forms of terrorism? No Timothy Mcveigh, no IRA, no ETA?" None of these perpetrates terror in the name of religion. Not even the IRA, as some would like to point out. If it were, Catholics universally would be taking up the struggle against Britain!
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posted on
02/01/2002 6:56:54 AM PST
by
mikeIII
To: Sloth
So then we would agree that context determines meaning, and that a text without a context is a pretext. I would only say that it is present day Islamists themselves that interpret such passages of the Koran as their instruction manual. There are probably hundreds of thousand, if not millions of Moslems who interpret such passages strictly and very literally. So why is context relevant in interpreting the Bible but not in the Koran? Ask the violent Islamist that question. (But stay far enough away from him when you ask that he cannot kidnap or kill you.)
Cordially,
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posted on
02/01/2002 7:00:42 AM PST
by
Diamond
To: Sloth
we should reciprocate by being honest in our approach to others' beliefs.Precisely, now why do Islamic states support terrorism ? Is the Islam they preach and practice a cause or simply a contributing factor ?
To: a_witness
Shame on you. Hmmmm....you're right, I suppose. My apologies for my insensitivity and lack of humanity for this person....despite his alleged lack of fundamental human decency. I shouldn't have sunk to his level.
50
posted on
02/01/2002 7:01:59 AM PST
by
BenF
To: Doc Savage
I used to love Doc Savage....you know he was written in the 30's as a serialized set of novels, don't you?
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posted on
02/01/2002 7:03:18 AM PST
by
BenF
To: a_witness
The kidnappers sent their pictures of Pearl and demands via e-mail. Did Carnivore work? Is Carnivore going to protect Americans against real terrorists, or just protect the government from Americans who don't always say the most "correct" things?
To: Sloth
Apart from the fact that these references are few and far between in the Bible, there's the New Testament which represents Christianity today. The Old Testament, from which you quote (Exodus, Proverbs, Samuel) is mostly referred to in an historical context. There is no church anywhere today that uses those verses to define Christian behavior or preaches any form of violence whatsoever against non-believers.
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posted on
02/01/2002 7:16:06 AM PST
by
mikeIII
To: bluester
Muslims can have non-Muslim friends...
So they can kidnap and kill them? With friends like those who needs enemies! Now that Daniel Pearl has seen who this "peaceful muslims" really are, the more reason the savages have to cut his throat. I bet Daniel is dead already, poor man.
54
posted on
02/01/2002 7:17:54 AM PST
by
GHCubana
To: mikeIII
See #44.
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posted on
02/01/2002 7:26:53 AM PST
by
Sloth
To: mikeIII
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posted on
02/01/2002 7:49:19 AM PST
by
Diamond
To: Sloth; Diamond
See #44.
See #48.
Ok. And Ok. Let's acknowledge for now that both the Koran and the Old Testament have references to Violence and Hatred, disregarding the intensity of these in each. The question is, which of the two preaches and practices it today?
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posted on
02/01/2002 9:19:26 AM PST
by
mikeIII
To: mikeIII
The question is, which of the two preaches and practices it today?Bingo!
Cordially
58
posted on
02/01/2002 11:46:08 AM PST
by
Diamond
To: a_witness
It makes me fed up to the teeth, with bleeding hearted journos, who are pro all of OUR enemies, and think that they can never be harmed by them.
Besides, there is something VERY wrong with this whole setup. It smells.
And what, pray tell is WRONG with you ? Bet you didn't read the article , or are a bleeding heart yourself. Johnny Jihad is an American citizen too. I bet you love him, and think that he is just a " poor , misguided youth "; don't you ?
To: Rubber Duckie
Didn't Fiske get beaten up?
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posted on
02/01/2002 2:29:59 PM PST
by
Howlin
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