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Taking back the Senate in 2002 starts now.
1 posted on 01/26/2002 9:02:04 AM PST by umbra
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Any NC Freepers going to CPAC?

I was trying to work out a way to make it, but it's just not going to happen.

2 posted on 01/26/2002 9:07:10 AM PST by Constitution Day
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Isn't there any real Republican who can win in NC?
3 posted on 01/26/2002 9:07:28 AM PST by Hugin
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Liddy Dole is a gun grabbing, pro-abortion, RINO.

How can NC go from Jesse Helms to a RINO?

5 posted on 01/26/2002 9:08:48 AM PST by RJL
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I don't need viagara to be attracted to my wife!
10 posted on 01/26/2002 9:23:10 AM PST by bulldog905
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No big surprise. Of course Jesse Helms wants to endorse the person who will be his successor, even if they don't agree all the time. No one really has a chance against her in the primaries, and she will very likely win the general race.

Her only position of great concern was her strong pro-gun control stance, but she has smartly moderated it in preparation of representing her largely pro-gun Republican constituents. A lot of people here seem to think she is pro-choice, which is not true. She is pro-life (with the whole rape/incest/mother's life exception), but she has said she doesn't want to make it an issue, so you can take that as you will. I'm fairly certain she would vote for a PBA ban and against public funding, which is really what's important anyway.

There's not a chance that as a senator, Dole would be a RINO of the Specter/Snowe/Collins variety. She will probably support Bush a large majority of the time.

11 posted on 01/26/2002 9:36:46 AM PST by DallasJ7
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Liddy Dole - you can thank her for seat belt laws.

A RINO of the first water.

I'm underwhelmed.

22 posted on 01/26/2002 10:06:45 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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Great. A Congress full of nothing more than socialists & RINOs. The sheeple fall for the theory that Dasshole must be defeated & RINOs are the answer?? They are not. In my case the pubbie party is gone. I'm outta there. They left me not I left them.
23 posted on 01/26/2002 10:17:00 AM PST by Digger
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liddy dole is a socialist rino let commie loving demoncrats have their way kinda gal, in a word a republiscam.
28 posted on 01/26/2002 10:57:03 AM PST by IRtorqued
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I FELT she'd win compared to her hubby.

However, I believe she is almost as much a one worlder as most of the other DC area animals.

Or am I mixing doles and pineapples?

29 posted on 01/26/2002 10:59:36 AM PST by Quix
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If Jessie Helms endorses that left-wing liberal, gun-grabbing Rino Dole, its indeed time for him to retire. Any similarity between Libby Dole and a mainstream Republican is purely coincidental. With friends like her, who needs Jeffords?

Remember what a pusillanimous pipsqueak her husband was, both in Congress and on the campaign trail? She's probably why he needs Viagra.

32 posted on 01/26/2002 11:08:53 AM PST by ZULU
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I remember Miss Dole doing very well initially in her Presidential bid.

Then she got wobbly on guns and abortion.. Incredibly enough, her poll numbers began slipping about that time (amazing, eh?) and the last thing I heard from her was that it was all our fault because we were scared to vote for a woman.

I don't forgive Hillary for similar remarks she has made, why should I cut Lizzy Dole any slack?

36 posted on 01/26/2002 11:49:44 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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Yep, vote for Snyder in the primary, then Dole in the general; assuming she wins with her establishment credentials and all.

I hope she isn't playing Lucy with the football on her recent conversion to conservatism, but past experience with politicians, including her husband, make me doubtful.

38 posted on 01/26/2002 12:07:52 PM PST by OK
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Jesse rocks !
42 posted on 01/26/2002 12:19:52 PM PST by ChadGore
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Liddy Dole Wins Support in Carolina

Elizabeth Dole has been quietly charming the voters in North Carolina and leads the pack to replace Jesse Helms next year in the U.S. Senate. And the Tarheel native is proving she's no Hillary Clinton carpetbagger.

At "events around the state, Mrs. Dole, 65, has been received like the celebrity she is, attracting outsized crowds in tiny towns," and she leads all polls, the New York Times reported.

One Republican opponent "has attacked Mrs. Dole on perceived shifts in her position on gun control, a critical issue to conservatives. While campaigning for president in 1999, Mrs. Dole opposed laws allowing people to carry concealed weapons and supported legislation to ban assault weapons," the Times said.

"Now facing a more conservative electorate, she wrote to the North Carolina Rifle and Pistol Association pledging to 'oppose restrictions on the ownership of firearms that penalize the law-abiding citizen.' In the interview, she described herself as 'a strong supporter of the Second Amendment,' and said the assault weapons ban appeared to have had little effect on crime and should not be extended or expanded until studied further.

"She also said she would have 'no trouble supporting' North Carolina's concealed weapons law, which requires passing a gun safety test before being allowed to carry a concealed weapon and restricts where guns can be carried," the newspaper reported.

Steve Odom, the Republican sheriff of Graham County, said he was satisfied with her stand on the issues. "I don't know that the Republican Party could ever find someone to replace Jesse Helms, but Elizabeth is conservative enough for me."

She has maintained close ties to the state in the decades she has lived in Washington, and recently took title to the house in Salisbury where her 100-year-old mother lives.

"Of course, they tried to pack her off as another Hillary," Chester W. Crisp, the Republican chairman in Graham County, told the Times. "But she's not. She's a native North Carolinian, so she's our own flesh and blood."

Elizabeth Dole did say some things about gun control. Assault weapons should be banned, she argued, noting, correctly, that "you don't need an AK-47 to defend your family." Gun-show vendors should require a three-day waiting period for buyers. And "it's wrong," she declared, "to let people carry concealed weapons."

52 posted on 01/26/2002 2:08:22 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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GO LIDDY GO!!
60 posted on 01/26/2002 2:48:12 PM PST by VA Advogado
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Dole is a nice enough lady on the surface. The problem is that she is basically a Washington bureaucrat who has spent way too much of her life inside the beltway. She's a good choice pragmatically, i.e., it helps the Republicans. But she's not someone who is going to do any shaking up in town--and that's what's really needed. Oh well.
62 posted on 01/26/2002 2:59:35 PM PST by calmseas
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Liddy Dole will be part of the problem, not part of the solution. It's easy for her to change her stances depending on what group she's speaking to, because she doesn't have any real principles on which to stand for election.

And I totally reject the argument that it's better to elect a liberal Republican than a liberal Democrat. That's like saying it's better to get stabbed in the back by your friends than by your enemies. Makes no sense at all.

And to answer a question from another post: No, there is NO virtue in slowing the progression down the road to hell, because too many people adopt that mindset and become unwilling to do the hard work required to stop and reverse the process. It's a total cop-out, and it is part of the problem and not the solution.

64 posted on 01/26/2002 3:16:30 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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It is painful to think that our Jesse Helms would willingly offer his seat to a candidate such as his enemies over the years would have rejoiced in replacing him with. Say it ain't so Jesse!
65 posted on 01/26/2002 3:42:14 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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Gee, that is exactly what we need, another bleeding heart liberal Republican in the Senate. Maybe she can switch parties after the President makes her mad. Her hubbie was a spineless compromiser, she won't be much better.
71 posted on 01/26/2002 4:41:33 PM PST by jeremiah
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"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others."

Groucho Marx

128 posted on 01/28/2002 7:43:13 AM PST by George Smiley
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